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Korea Town in LA - - as bad as TV shows portray it?
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charlieDD



Joined: 16 Jun 2006
Location: Seoul, Korea

PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:45 pm    Post subject: Korea Town in LA - - as bad as TV shows portray it? Reply with quote

I've just noticed that Korea Town of Los Angeles, CA tends to get pretty bad press in television shows. I've seen it referred to several times in Shield over the years and each time not in very good light. It's been mentioned in Sopranos in an offhand remark about drug dealing. It was part of a situation in Six Feet Under, when the cop boyfriend of David is in a standoff at a house in KoreaTown. It's been featured in several Hollywood movies in a criminal-element way. In all these cases, the basic image was that it was a place of high crime.

I've never been there. Anyone who has, or knows: Is it really that bad? Or, is it just being picked on? I mean, there are other "towns" of other ethnicities that could be the scenes of crimes; why so consistently Korea Town?

I am not trolling here ! I'm truly curious.
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seoulsucker



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff

PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Koreatown is the Itaewon of LA, only much worse." Shocked

This is a direct quote from a friend who lived in Korea for almost 4 years and recently moved close to the neighborhood.
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mateomiguel



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i thought south central was the Itaewan of LA. Or Inglewood. I lived there for 2 years so I'm not speaking from ignorance.

I never went to Korea Town either Sad. I had no interest in or knowledge of Korea at that time.
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seoulsucker



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mateomiguel wrote:
i thought south central was the Itaewan of LA. Or Inglewood. I lived there for 2 years so I'm not speaking from ignorance.

I never went to Korea Town either Sad. I had no interest in or knowledge of Korea at that time.


In terms of being a neighborhood where shady business and illicit activities are overlooked and in many cases are facilitated and protected by concentrated pockets of the international community, the famous 'hoods in SCLA could never hold a candle to what Koreatown is now.

SCLA was worse for gang violence, turf wars, etc., but hit its peak in the mid/late 80's. It's been an much better place to live in recent years.
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dogbert



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was last there in the early '90s, fewer than half the residents of what the City of L.A. defines as "Koreatown" were ethnic Koreans. The majority were central Americans and there were pockets of African Americans. Those ethnic Koreans who did live there tended to be quite poor or very recent immigrants. Any Koreans with means quickly moved to a better part of the city.

Therefore, the levels of crime were fairly high.

While there is certainly a large concentration of Korean-run and -themed business in Koreatown, you can be certain that most of the owners and patrons live elsewhere.
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passport220



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah the problem largely steams from the fact that it is jammed right up against a lower income high crime Afro American neighborhood. If you remember during the Rodney King riots when the city burned there were a lot of images of Koreans standing arms linked with weapons in hand (or at least a Glock on their hip) on TV.

It seems most have moved to Northern Orange County near where the Interstates 405 and 5 merge (there is really a mix of Vietnamese and other Asians in this area).
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Smee



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

passport220 wrote:
Yeah the problem largely steams from the fact that it is jammed right up against a lower income high crime Afro American neighborhood. If you remember during the Rodney King riots when the city burned there were a lot of images of Koreans standing arms linked with weapons in hand (or at least a Glock on their hip) on TV.

It seems most have moved to Northern Orange County near where the Interstates 405 and 5 merge (there is really a mix of Vietnamese and other Asians in this area).


Well, that wasn't by accident.
And the looting of Korean businesses wasn't an accident, either.

I have no interest in seeing any part of LA, let alone K-taewon.
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SuperHero



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and I'm sure that the central park area of New York is just like it is in friends - TV does not reflect reality.
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badfish



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

please dont degrade new york by comparing it to Friends
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ysl



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

koreatown is a shithole where all the young korean american thug wannabe's drink and drive, bars and clubs let you smoke inside, there are tons of underpaid immigrant laborers, a huge amount of luxury cars rolling around all the time.

people get stabbed once in a while, a lot of whites are starting to move in, there is an increasing amount of real estate redevelopment in koreatown as well fuled by the community redevelopment agency of los angeles and through foreign investment mostly from korea.

overall, it's a shithole and it's only 35% korean. the rest are mostly latino.

i only drive through it to get to a)hancock park b)beverly hills
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jg



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are a lot of ignorant and way-off comments here, some by the usual suspects. Koreatown is a normal urban area - I live AND worked in mid-Wilshire until weeks ago, now I just live here. There are LOTS of Koreans who live here, work here, jockey for the scarce parking, etc. There are lots of Latinos too, but I wouldn't say that there is a huge majority of Latinos. If it weren't for Koreatown, this area would be either be really overpriced and gentrified like a lot of Hollywood, or kinda skanky like a lot of areas around downtown.

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i only drive through it to get to a)hancock park b)beverly hills


Big props to your exclusive ass.

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In terms of being a neighborhood where shady business and illicit activities are overlooked and in many cases are facilitated and protected by concentrated pockets of the international community, the famous 'hoods in SCLA could never hold a candle to what Koreatown is now.


How do you see Koreatown as being worse than South Central? What are all these teahouses and Galbi joints, fronts for the Boba Mafia? Koreatown is one of the few places that still somewhat affordable and is cleaner than some of the areas around it - especially the area between K-town and downtown. It has a decent housing stock, plenty of friendly shops and restaurants, and to seperate Koreatown from Hancock Park is kinda misleading, as lots of Koreans live in Hancock Park.
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sjrm



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

koreatown isn't bad? it's next to dodger stadium which isn't exactly what i call an outstanding area. i lived in LA for 14 years, and koreatown always was and always will be a dump.
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hugo_danner



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PC Patrol alert!!!!!!!!!!!Shocked

jg wrote:
There are a lot of ignorant and way-off comments here, some by the usual suspects. Koreatown is a normal urban area - I live AND worked in mid-Wilshire until weeks ago, now I just live here. There are LOTS of Koreans who live here, work here, jockey for the scarce parking, etc. There are lots of Latinos too, but I wouldn't say that there is a huge majority of Latinos. If it weren't for Koreatown, this area would be either be really overpriced and gentrified like a lot of Hollywood, or kinda skanky like a lot of areas around downtown.

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i only drive through it to get to a)hancock park b)beverly hills


Big props to your exclusive ass.

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In terms of being a neighborhood where shady business and illicit activities are overlooked and in many cases are facilitated and protected by concentrated pockets of the international community, the famous 'hoods in SCLA could never hold a candle to what Koreatown is now.


How do you see Koreatown as being worse than South Central? What are all these teahouses and Galbi joints, fronts for the Boba Mafia? Koreatown is one of the few places that still somewhat affordable and is cleaner than some of the areas around it - especially the area between K-town and downtown. It has a decent housing stock, plenty of friendly shops and restaurants, and to seperate Koreatown from Hancock Park is kinda misleading, as lots of Koreans live in Hancock Park.
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ysl



Joined: 31 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jg wrote:
There are a lot of ignorant and way-off comments here, some by the usual suspects. Koreatown is a normal urban area - I live AND worked in mid-Wilshire until weeks ago, now I just live here. There are LOTS of Koreans who live here, work here, jockey for the scarce parking, etc. There are lots of Latinos too, but I wouldn't say that there is a huge majority of Latinos. If it weren't for Koreatown, this area would be either be really overpriced and gentrified like a lot of Hollywood, or kinda skanky like a lot of areas around downtown.

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i only drive through it to get to a)hancock park b)beverly hills


Big props to your exclusive ass.


take it easy, it was a joke.

census shows that koreatown is mostly latino. granted there are concentrations of koreans within the area, but the area is large and it is dominated by other populations.

how is koreatown NOT getting gentrified? did you not see all those redevelopments for luxury condos and apartments? these buildings cannot be sought out by previous tenants and the designated 20% of low-income housing in the new units is inadequate.

the face of mid-wilshire is changing my friend. every district in LA is getting overpriced and gentrified. take a look at silver lake, echo park, eagle rock, and there will be a continous flow of gentrifiers moving from one place to another.... it cannot be stopped.
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ysl



Joined: 31 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

plus what's wrong with the skanky areas? are you too good to live among the poor?

i find the "nicer" parts of downtown especially along the disney hall and the public library lacking in any sort of real human contact. go down to the fashion/toy/jewlery districts and you'll find that's where the true city of los angeles lives.
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