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Benicio
Joined: 25 May 2006 Location: Down South- where it's hot & wet
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:05 am Post subject: N. Korea puts disabled in camps |
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http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/10/23/un.nkorea.ap/index.html
U.N.: N. Korea puts disabled in camps
UNITED NATIONS (AP) -- The North Korean government rounds up disabled people and sends them away from the capital Pyongyang to special camps, where they are sorted by their handicap and subjected to "subhuman conditions," a recently released U.N. report said.
Author Vitit Muntarbhorn, special rapporteur for human rights in North Korea, cited reports from defectors who said the mentally disabled are sent to camps known as "Ward 49." Other camps exist for dwarfs, who may marry but are barred from having children.
"To date, the situation facing those with disabilities has presented a very disconcerting picture," Muntarbhorn wrote in the report detailing what he said were rampant human rights abuses in North Korea.
Those violations include torture, refusal to give food aid to citizens and harsh punishment of those trying to flee the country, according to the report, released last Thursday.
Muntarbhorn has repeatedly written to the North Korean government about numerous concerns and has asked to be allowed into the country. The government has typically responded that it does not recognize his mandate and will not communicate with him -- or allow him to visit.
As a result, much of the evidence he relied on for his conclusions was drawn from reports compiled by other sources. The finding that North Korea was putting away the disabled was published by the Korea Institute for National Unification, a South Korean government think tank, in a 2005 report that got little international attention.
Citing that report, Muntarbhorn said the disabled are sent to camps and sorted according to their physical deformity or handicap.
"It is reported that those with disabilities are sent away from the capital city, and particularly those with mental disabilities are detained in areas or camps known as 'Ward 49' with harsh and subhuman conditions," the report said.
"North Korean authorities are practicing merciless discrimination against handicapped persons," the institute's report said.
Muntarbhorn's report detailed other rights violations against women, the elderly and children. It said that women who get pregnant with non-Koreans when they flee the country are subject to discrimination or violence if they are brought back "with dire impact on the babies or children of the relationship."
Family members of people who are seen as opponents of the North Korean government are often punished along with their relatives and it is illegal to listen to foreign radio broadcasts or own a computer without permission, Muntarbhorn said in the report.
Muntarbhorn, a Thai specialist in human rights law, made some of the same points in a speech to the U.N. Human Rights Council last month.
He said then he had seen "reports of a wide range of detention centers and prisons with appalling conditions and use of torture, inhuman and degrading treatment, despite a ban on such practices under the country's law," Muntarbhorn said. |
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wylies99

Joined: 13 May 2006 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 7:46 am Post subject: |
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There's A LOT of evidence that NKorea is a total hellhole.  |
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Bibbitybop

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 9:33 am Post subject: |
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Just one more reason to let Kim Jong Il keep screwing up.
The sooner he p-offs the rest of the world, the sooner we have a legal reason to get rid of him. |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 10:45 am Post subject: |
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When Kim Jong ILL dies, will it be a better place?
Who's his successor?
Sounds like a long, dark road yet ahead for the poor bunch up north. |
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ChuckECheese

Joined: 20 Jul 2006
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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Things that go on in NK doesn't surprise me any more. It's normacy in NK. |
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GoldMember
Joined: 24 Oct 2006
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 5:32 pm Post subject: Where are the disabled? |
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When you consider Korea's atrocious attitude towards safety in industry and on the roads, there must be a lot of disabled people here in South Korea.
We all know North Korea is a hell hole (except South Koreans), so it's obvious the disabled (impure Han genetic stock) would be 'cleansed'.
The real question we should ask is WHERE ARE THE DISABLED IN SOUTH KOREA?
Think about it how many disabled people do you see back home compared to here in Korea. Not Many, very rare in fact!
Where are these people? |
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ThePoet
Joined: 15 May 2004 Location: No longer in Korea - just lurking here
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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Ive seen a few. Actually, since I've been here (3 years now) I have noticed more people in wheelchairs or with visible handicaps. But I think the majority stay home.
But I'd rather have to stay home than have to be sent to a camp to be slowly killed.
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cdninkorea

Joined: 27 Jan 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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jajdude wrote: |
When Kim Jong ILL dies, will it be a better place?
Who's his successor?
Sounds like a long, dark road yet ahead for the poor bunch up north. |
He has two sons, one of whom is apparently being fleeced to take over. I don't have any links to back this up, but there was a big article about it in GQ magazine a year or two about this. |
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wylies99

Joined: 13 May 2006 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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The real question we should ask is WHERE ARE THE DISABLED IN SOUTH KOREA?
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Good question. Maybe they just don't come out in public?
What a f'd up place.  |
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djsmnc

Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 7:37 pm Post subject: Re: Where are the disabled? |
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GoldMember wrote: |
When you consider Korea's atrocious attitude towards safety in industry and on the roads, there must be a lot of disabled people here in South Korea.
We all know North Korea is a hell hole (except South Koreans), so it's obvious the disabled (impure Han genetic stock) would be 'cleansed'.
The real question we should ask is WHERE ARE THE DISABLED IN SOUTH KOREA?
Think about it how many disabled people do you see back home compared to here in Korea. Not Many, very rare in fact!
Where are these people? |
You sound like you love your experience in Korea!
Why not wear a sandwich board that says "WHERE ARE THE DISABLED IN SOUTH KOREA?
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friendofIgnatius J.

Joined: 20 Aug 2006
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:30 pm Post subject: I don't believe you |
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ThePoet wrote: |
But I'd rather have to stay home than have to be sent to a camp to be slowly killed.
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But what if the camp had marshmellow roasts? And crazy adventures like on Earnest Goes to Camp? Would you rather stay home then? |
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Lizara

Joined: 14 Apr 2004 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:57 am Post subject: |
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*sigh* I'm not even sure why this is news. Considering all the other atrocities we've heard of coming out of North Korea, this isn't even remotely surprising. |
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