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Why did the world change on September 11th?
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EFLtrainer



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NAVFC wrote:
Meegook wrote:
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For everybody else the world did not change on 9/11.


Changed for the Afghanistanis.

Changed for Iraq.

It's about to change for the Iranians.

Changed for Arab Muslims.

But the question is

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Why did the world change only after America was attacked?


Why did it change? Because of WHO is responsible for the attacks. The enemy is the US government with the most nuclear weapons and the most powerful military in the history of the world and led by a man who considers himself the 'War President.'





The US GOVERNEMNT DID NOT CARRY OUT 9-11. You and EFL trainer are fools for believing this. Al Qaeda has publicly boasted of the attacks in video and audio tape releases several times, so by now it should be known who is responsible. This all started back in 91 when Osama got mad about US presence in the middle east when we fought Saddam the first time.
We helped out the Kuwaitis and the Saudis and Osama should just dal with it. He has no right towage this terror campaign despite what you two terrorist sympathizers think. Iraq invaded kuwait in 91, we defendd and Osama got mad.


Hijacking another thread? I would love for you to find the quote where I stated I believe the US government was responsible for 9/11. However, please do it on the apporpriate thread. Hint: This is not it.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NAVFC wrote:
Meegook wrote:
Quote:
For everybody else the world did not change on 9/11.


Changed for the Afghanistanis.

Changed for Iraq.

It's about to change for the Iranians.

Changed for Arab Muslims.

But the question is

Quote:
Why did the world change only after America was attacked?


Why did it change? Because of WHO is responsible for the attacks. The enemy is the US government with the most nuclear weapons and the most powerful military in the history of the world and led by a man who considers himself the 'War President.'




Oh and Iran.. let me guess this straight, you have a Perisan madman named Mahmoud Ahamdienjad, cosntantly going on about wiping Israel off the map, amassing nuclear capability for weapons
(strange how awhile ago the UN discovered designes for uranium nuclear war heads in iran.. a strange thing to have if you dont want a nuclear weapon) Also a few years back Irans supreme leader made a speech about how a few Iranian nukes could easily destroy Israel. You have these madmen declaring their desire to destroy an entire race of people, and amassing the technology that would enable them to carry out such a plan, and you dolts are criticizing the US for wanting to stop that?

I might add that the Europeans are being tough on Iran do but I dont see you criticizing them.
You and EFL trainer need to take your heads out of your asses. Seriously. You dont like Bush. Fine. What ever, But your disain oif Bush has turned into a sort of tunnel vision where by everything that happens is Bush's fault, or everything Bush does is wrong, even when its not, such as in pushing for tough action on iran. HE SHOULD push for action Iran. Do you two listen to ANYTHING that had come out of the Iranian leaderships mouth in the last 4 years? apparently not!


Personal comments don't belong on this thead. Notice it is not about Bush, me, nor meegook. It is, in fact, an interesting question that deserves better than your off-topic distortions. Move it to another thread.
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NAVFC



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no I Wont move. You and miguk criticized bush and i brought up a point quit, dodging it.
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Meegook



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Al Qaeda has publicly boasted of the attacks in video and audio tape releases several times, so by now it should be known who is responsible.


Anybody who has done even a tad bit of research would know that those tapes and videos have been shown to be fakes.

bin laden has never come out and said he was behing 9/11 in fact, the first and last reliable report from bin laden was this one shortly after 9/11.

"I was not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States nor did I have knowledge of the attacks. There exists a government within a government within the United States. The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; to the people who want to make the present century a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity. That secret government must be asked as to who carried out the attacks....The American system is totally in control of the Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not the United States." OBL

Even the FBI has come out publically and stated that they have 'no hard evidence that bin Laden was involved in 9/11"

With NAVFC as your username you might be involved in the US Navy. And therefore it's understandable that you might not like or accept the idea that your Commander in Chief is a murderer and a bold faced evil liar, but get over it - quick for yours and our sakes.

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a sort of tunnel vision where by everything that happens is Bush's fault, or everything Bush does is wrong, even when its not, such as in pushing for tough action on iran. HE SHOULD push for action Iran. Do you two listen to ANYTHING that had come out of the Iranian leaderships mouth in the last 4 years? apparently not!


Talk about tunnel vision. Have you heard anything coming out of Bush's mouth these last four years? Like his comment that the Consitution is nothing more than a 'goddamned piece of paper' you know that piece of paper he swore to up hold and defend? That's the same goddamned piced of paper he is shredding and people like you are giving him a free ride as he drags us all down to hell with him.

What Bush should push for is tough action against Israel, but he won't because no president can get elected with out the support of Israel. And why shouldn't Iran have nukes? Israel does and they attack other nations al the time. Rumsfeld was even involved in selling Iran nuclear technoogly back in 1976.

"Yet Cheney, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and outgoing Deputy Secretary Paul Wolfowitz held key national security posts when the Ford administration made the opposite argument 30 years ago.

Ford's team endorsed Iranian plans to build a massive nuclear energy industry, but also worked hard to complete a multibillion-dollar deal that would have given Tehran control of large quantities of plutonium and enriched uranium -- the two pathways to a nuclear bomb. Either can be shaped into the core of a nuclear warhead, and obtaining one or the other is generally considered the most significant obstacle to would-be weapons builders.

Iran, a U.S. ally then, had deep pockets and close ties to Washington. U.S. companies, including Westinghouse and General Electric, scrambled to do business there.

"I don't think the issue of proliferation came up," Henry A. Kissinger, who was Ford's secretary of state, said in an interview for this article."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A3983-2005Mar26.html

Bin laden had nothing to do with 9/11 and Bush/Cheney were behind it 100%. Get on the same page.

Until you can bring some facts here in support of your Conspiracy Theory, I suggest you go study first, as you won't find any.

If you look for the evidence, I think you'll find the mad man who has access to nuclear weapons is not Ahmadinejad, but Bush.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NAVFC wrote:
no I Wont move. You and miguk criticized bush and i brought up a point quit, dodging it.


You brought up no point. You smeared. The topic is why did the world change after 9/11, not whether I like or dislike bush.

Shut up.
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