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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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There is something about this that brings 'Night of the Long Knives' and the 'St. Bartholmew's Day Massacre' to mind and I don't like it.
If the cops knew there were bad guys out there and had the evidence, why weren't they arrested as the evidence became available? Law enforcement should not be about staging a media event. |
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Woland
Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 5:24 am Post subject: |
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| Maybe they'll go after the deadbeat dads next. Be afraid, Meegook, be very afraid. |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan
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| Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 7:01 am Post subject: |
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| Meegook wrote: |
How much longer before those who disagree - 'the dissenters' - are rounded up - by the Decider - for 'giving aid and comfort to the enemy - 'the terrorists' - and herded off to those detention camps Halliburton is building with their no bid $385 million open-ended contract? And then because there is no more habeas corpus protection in the United States, are left there indefinitely and tortured?
"BERKELEY, Calif.--A Halliburton subsidiary has just received a $385 million contract from the Department of Homeland Security to provide "temporary detention and processing capabilities."
The contract -- announced Jan. 24 by the engineering and construction firm KBR -- calls for preparing for "an emergency influx of immigrants, or to support the rapid development of new programs" in the event of other emergencies, such as "a natural disaster." The release offered no details about where Halliburton was to build these facilities, or when." |
What if New Orleans happens again? What to do with the refugees?
I know let's plan ahead this time, let's see what Halliburton can do.
No wait we can't do that this is an obvious attack on civil liberties.
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:02 am Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
| ...Law enforcement should not be about staging a media event. |
This is way too cynical, Ya-ta.
What makes you so sure these kinds of task force actions are designed as purely "media events?" And how did you conclude that this particular op was a staged event?
(a) Authorities collaborate on a multi-state action that nets massive arrests;
(b) the Attorney-General steps up and ensures that the Administration claims credit for it, as any self-respecting politician of any partisan slant would do from the White House.
But what makes you so sure that "b" necessarily undermines "a," indeed supplants "a" as the main event? |
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NAVFC
Joined: 10 May 2006
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| Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:20 am Post subject: |
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The start of conditioning the sheeple to accept large operations such as this.
Start with those who will garner little sympathy from the rest of the population, abuse them a little, violate their rights, etc and study the reaction of the rest of the sheeple.
Already we can see what the reaction is of some:
Arrest them all and throw away the key!
This was a practice run to see how to run a large scale arrest round-up. There will be many more in the near future. |
..Meegook, go commit yourself. EVerytime the government does something your here screaming conspiracy. Go get a life and some therapy. As much as you might hate to believe it, the nation does have criminals in it, and it IS law enforcement's job to find and arrest them.
There is nothing wrong with that. It is not a violation of civil rights to arrest someone suspected of a crime. |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan
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| Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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Can I appeal for some civility.
Let not attack the poster.
But do kindly attack the topic with relish.
cbc |
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deadman
Joined: 27 May 2006
Location: Suwon
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| Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
Laws and regulations are there to limit government power in abusing innocent people. |
Shouldn't that be in the past tense? It seems to me under the Bush administration there has been a steady weakening of laws that incoveniently limit its power, coupled with a lowering of the standards and accountability for judging who is innocent and who isn't.
I agree that it's the thin edge of the wedge for mass roundups uf undesirables. Next time it happens, the news just needs to say the words "Sex offenders", and no one (who only watches the news) will raise an eyebrow. |
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Meegook
Joined: 12 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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| the nation does have criminals in it, and it IS law enforcement's job to find and arrest them |
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They should start with the criminals in the White House and Congress.
Meanwhile, law enforcement let thousands of illegal aliens into the country every week?
Can you imagine if Korea let thousand of illegals in every week?
Name one other country in the world where it is as easy to get and stay in the country and get benefits for doing so, and then take to the streets demanding their rights, rights they don't have because they are criminals breaking the law?
They should be arrested and deported.
Let's have a mass arrest campaign for those criminals.
This isn't about law enforcment, it's about mass citizen control and propaganda psychops evalutation.
You know about the repeal of the Posse Comitatus Act two weeks ago, right? You even know what the Posse Comitatus Act is
"In a stealth maneuver, President Bush has signed into law a provision which, according to Senator Patrick Leahy (D-Vermont), will actually encourage the President to declare federal martial law (1). It does so by revising the Insurrection Act, a set of laws that limits the President's ability to deploy troops within the United States. The Insurrection Act (10 U.S.C.331 -335) has historically, along with the Posse Comitatus Act (18 U.S.C.1385), helped to enforce strict prohibitions on military involvement in domestic law enforcement. With one cloaked swipe of his pen, Bush is seeking to undo those prohibitions.
Public Law 109-364, or the "John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007" (H.R.5122) (2), which was signed by the commander in chief on October 17th, 2006, in a private Oval Office ceremony, allows the President to declare a "public emergency" and station troops anywhere in America and take control of state-based National Guard units without the consent of the governor or local authorities, in order to "suppress public disorder."
President Bush seized this unprecedented power on the very same day that he signed the equally odious Military Commissions Act of 2006. In a sense, the two laws complement one another. One allows for torture and detention abroad, while the other seeks to enforce acquiescence at home, preparing to order the military onto the streets of America. Remember, the term for putting an area under military law enforcement control is precise; the term is "martial law."
This goes along with the removal of the 800 year old right of habeas corpus two weeks ago.
http://www.towardfreedom.com/home/content/view/911/ |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Meegook wrote: |
| the nation does have criminals in it, and it IS law enforcement's job to find and arrest them |
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They should start with the criminals in the White House and Congress.
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They should start with the deadbeat dads in Korea.
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Meanwhile, law enforcement let thousands of illegal aliens into the country every week?
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Meanwhile, law enforcement let thousand of deadbeat dads into the country?
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Can you imagine if Korea let thousands of illegals in every week?
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Can you imagine if America let thousand of deadbeats in every week?
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Name one other country in the world where it is as easy to get and stay in the country and get benefits for doing so, and then take to the streets demanding their rights, rights they don't have because they are criminals breaking the law? |
Name one other country (Korea) in the world where it is as easy to get and stay in the country without paying any of your bills or taking care of your child back home
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They should be arrested and deported.
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Let's have a mass arrest campaign for those criminals.
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This isn't about law enforcment, it's about mass citizen control and propaganda psychops evalutation.
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This isn't about law enforcment, it's about making sure the innocent children are taken care of. |
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Meegook
Joined: 12 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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You know exactly nothing about whether the person who goes by the usnername meegook is a deadbeat dad.
It's all red herring conjecture.
Last edited by Meegook on Fri Nov 03, 2006 9:32 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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gang ah jee
Joined: 14 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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But we do know that a middle-aged English teacher named C****** F******* is self-publishing a non-fiction narrative titled 'Deadbeat Dad'. If the shoe fits...
And please, learn what 'strawman' means. You keep using the term at inappropriate times. |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Meegook wrote: |
You know exactly nothing about whether the person who goes by the usnername meegook is a deadbeat dad.
It's all red herring conjecture. |
Then deny it. |
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Meegook
Joined: 12 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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Sure, at the same time I deny that I didn't swallow my paraket whole, barbeque my dog and like to sleep on a bed of nails.
Btw: Who in hades are you? |
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dogshed
Joined: 28 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Meegook wrote: |
The start of conditioning the sheeple to accept large operations such as this.
Start with those who will garner little sympathy from the rest of the population, abuse them a little, violate their rights, etc and study the reaction of the rest of the sheeple.
Already we can see what the reaction is of some:
Arrest them all and throw away the key!
This was a practice run to see how to run a large scale arrest round-up. There will be many more in the near future. |
Actually when they do one of these stunts that involve the media they are very good about doing everything by the book. It's all the other operations you have to be paranoid about. -Jeff |
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Leslie Cheswyck
Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: University of Western Chile
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| Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Meegook raises an important question: Why are we not seeing 11,000 arrests worth of law enforcement muscle put into rounding up illegal aliens? (Not that I mind arresting 11,000 perverts) |
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