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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
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| At best, it was an ill-conceived, hyperbolic, election-day piece of hyperbole. |
Remember, though, Friedman is the guy who wrote a book describing his view of globalization with the formula "the world is flat". In the excerpts I read from the book, he uses that phrase as if it were literally true. Eg. "Given that the world is now flat, companies will find it easier to do transfer jobs overseas without worrying about etc etc".
That's not a direct quote, but it is a reasonable facsimile. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:41 am Post subject: |
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| Since it didn't happen, his point is moot. |
Bucheon, his point was not stated in the conditional tense. Read your signature-line again.
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| if the Bush team can behave with the level of deadly incompetence it has exhibited in Iraq � and then get away with it by holding on to the House and the Senate � it means our country has become a banana republic. |
so how is that not conditional? If the republicans win after their behavior, then the country has become a banana republic. The republicans didn't, so it means we haven't become a banana republic.
I realize it sounds very simplistic when put that way, but hey, it is conditional.  |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:53 am Post subject: |
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| If the republicans win after their behavior, then the country has become a banana republic. The republicans didn't, so it means we haven't become a banana republic. |
I'm sure glad the Republicans did not win, then. Between this and, as another poster promised, the worst century since the Middle Ages, I'm truly glad the Democrats managed to win and at the same time avoided using the scare tactics they righteously accused Republicans of in this election.
In any case, Bucheon, I think this issue is finished. Conditional or not. It was wholly inappropriate. For even had the Republicans won, the United States would not have become "a banana republic" in any sense of the word. Nor would the Middle Ages have returned, either, for that matter. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Nor would the Middle Ages have returned |
I once made Lyn the Spanish teacher cry in the teachers lounge when I claimed that the world was heading back into the Middle Ages. (I think she was having a bad day in addition to my claims.)
a) Corporations (taking on the role of local lords) having more power than the central governments...
b) A peasantry and an aristocracy and not much in between...
c) Superstition ranking science in public discourse... |
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