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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Location: Goseong
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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 7:22 pm Post subject: For Bush, is Bolton worth keeping? |
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Early rupture with Democrats at risk
By Helene Cooper / The New York Times
Published: November 10, 2006
WASHINGTON: President George W. Bush has pledged to be a bipartisan consensus builder now that Democrats are to control Congress, and since Wednesday he has made conciliatory gestures. The question now is whether Bush is ready to junk all of his make-nice pledges in order to keep John Bolton at the United Nations.
Officially, administration officials say they plan to make all the necessary calls to Republicans and Democrats on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee to try to talk them into confirming Bolton for a next term as ambassador.
"He has been extraordinarily effective up there at the UN, and now is not the time to have a gap," said a State Department spokesman, Sean McCormack, repeating the official line.
But with Senator Lincoln Chafee's announcement Thursday that he would deny Republicans on the committee the last vote needed to send Bolton's nomination to the full Senate, some administration officials privately acknowledge that Bolton's chances of getting Senate confirmation are "nil," one State Department official said. "We know it's not going to happen."
For Bush, is Bolton worth keeping at UN?In this situation, the usual next step would be for Bolton to withdraw from consideration and for Bush to nominate a less polarizing candidate - perhaps bringing Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad back from Baghdad, or turning to the State Department counselor, Philip Zelikow; the under secretary of state for democracy and global affairs, Paula Dobriansky; or even Chafee himself, following his own re-election defeat in Rhode Island. All those names have been floated both inside and outside the administration.
http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/11/10/news/bolton.php |
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ddeubel

Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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"He has been extraordinarily effective up there at the UN, and now is not the time to have a gap," said a State Department spokesman, Sean McCormack, repeating the official line. |
Yes, definitely party line.............. I won't list all of Bolton's idiotic acts or ineffective postures/statements. They are aplenty. I think the only saving grace is that HE COULD HAVE DONE MUCH MORE DAMAGE THAN HE DID. I was expecting much more of a ruckass and he seems to atleast acted as a diplomat in function but not in result.
I, for one, democrat or republican, American or Zambian, want him as far away from any place that demands concensus and a concilliatory approach as is humanly possible.
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Gopher

Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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...is Bolton worth keeping at UN? |
Ignore Ddeubel's standard, overly-preachy, moralistic response and focus on the practical answer (which is already implied in the above question): No, Bolton is not worth it. With respect to stabilizing national politics where W. Bush holds the White House and Reid and Pelosi lead Congress, no single person is worth it. And, incidentally, Bolton's qualifications and job performance are not the issue at all.
This means we -- on both sides of the aisle, so to speak -- should start by jettisoning all polarizing personalities and positions, making exaggerated gestures of reconciliation, establishing trust and good faith, step by step, but quickly, as there is an ongoing war that needs to be addressed/resolved, and going from there.
If I were positioned to advise Democratic and Republican leaders today, this is what my advice would be. As for W. Bush: accepting Rumsfeld's resignation (already done) and asking Bolton to withdraw his nomination are the first two things he should do. I would be disappointed in W. Bush were he not to do this.
Congress has reciprocated by clarifying that impeachment and revenge are not on the table. I would be disappointed in the Democratic leadership were they to fail to stand by this early pledge, and in spite of any obstinacy W. Bush might show.
So, I say, let's see if things can settle down and where they might go from here. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 12:14 am Post subject: |
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The smarter move would have been to quietly tell Bolton that his appointment was not going to be sent to the Senate to be made permanent. It would have been taken by the UN and foreign governments generally as a sign the White House was changing tack. That would have been a good thing. But it's too late for that now.
The next best thing is for Bush/Bolton to withdraw his nomination.
I look at this nomination as one of the prime examples of over-weening presidential power-grabbing. Bush knew Bolton would not likely get confirmed, so he waited for the Congressional recess and appointed him temporarily--making an end run around legitimate Senate responsibility.
Surely, Bolton is not the only one of us 300 million who is of the proper stature and qualifications who could serve with distinction at the UN. |
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khyber
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Compunction Junction
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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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In all honesty, it appears that Bolton's ridiculous, pre appointment rhetoric has sorta died down non?
I'm not sure how good of a job he's done. I DO know the world (nor the UN) hasn't really changed that much so I can only assume that he's NOT doing the job he promised he'd do. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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It should be Chafee to replace Bolton. Chafee lost in R.I. because of Bush, plain and simple (scroll down to R.I. message, the damned link doesn't work).
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Dick Cheney recently reasserted that Ned Lamont's primary victory over Joe Lieberman was a sign to the terrorists that Democrats were weak on terror. The vice president, who is away on a so-far uneventful hunting trip, is presumably happy that Lieberman won. But what does he make of the story of poor Lincoln Chaffee? The Rhode Island senator voted against the war, and 62 percent of his constituents told exit pollsters they approved of his conduct. And yet they voted him out of office. Why? Iraq. Of those voters who strongly disapprove of the war in Iraq, 27 percent voted for Chaffee, and 72 percent voted for Sheldon Whitehouse. Not good news for the other Whitehouse |
Bush needs to send a signal that he cares about the GOP casualties.  |
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