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tired of LA
Joined: 06 Nov 2006
Location: Seoul
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 Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:26 pm Post subject: shot gun approach?? |
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so i decided to just do it and started applying to jobs and recruiters. my question is, should i take the shot gun approach? meaning should i just apply to everyone and everything, including some of the less reputable recruiters, and see how it goes or should i only go with the more reputable recruiters. so far i have registered with footprints and park english. i have also registered with atc, but they haven't responded except for a generated confirmation email.
just to give everyone some background info. i am chinese-american, born and raised in california. i am currently in a teacher education program working on my teaching credential, but will not be finished by the time i plan on going to korea. i am also a substitute teacher. what are my chances for getting "average" contract, being of asian descent? |
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aristotle84
Joined: 04 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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I personally think you're clinically insane if you're quote, "tired of LA".
I envy you. One of the reasons why I'm going to teach in Korea is because I'm a down home country boy who is trying to save money to eventually settle in Los Angeles.
That and I want to visit Korea again to become more culturally aware.
Anyway, if you're already in LA, stay there!!! If I had a solid family base or any connections there, I would be there by now.
With that said, I think you'll have a harder time than most looking for a good job.
1) You're not white
2) You're not even Korean-American (gyopo)
But, if you search long enough, like I did (I am gyopo), you'll find one that is okay. I'd say the people with the hardest times looking for a job are black people and in general, dark-skinned folk like Arabs.
Nothing against them, but this is how the hagwan industry works. Koreans can be some really bigoted people. |
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sock
Joined: 07 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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| i am currently in a teacher education program working on my teaching credential, but will not be finished by the time i plan on going to korea. |
If you don't have at the very least, a bachelor's degree by the time you get here, don't bother coming. Anyone who would hire you would not be someone I would recommend working for. If you have a bachelor's degree but no teaching credential, you'll be fine. Just mention that you're working on it ... you may be able to negotiate a higher salary because of the experience/education you do have, even though it's not completed.
Another teacher I know is Chinese-American. Everyone assumes she's gyopo, so she's learned how to say, "I don't speak Korean," and she repeats it a lot. She has teaching experience and her education is in a teaching-related field, and she's been able to find a good job. Can't say what your experience will be like though. |
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tired of LA
Joined: 06 Nov 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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| aristotle84 wrote: |
I personally think you're clinically insane if you're quote, "tired of LA".
I envy you. One of the reasons why I'm going to teach in Korea is because I'm a down home country boy who is trying to save money to eventually settle in Los Angeles.
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don't get me wrong, i love LA and always will, but i am tired of it. i've lived here my whole life and it just gets on my nerves once in a while. when people think of LA they typically don't think of downtown, but rather hollywood, the beach or even disneyland. LA is the epitomy of urban sprawl, traffic sucks, public transportation is even worse. public transportation is primarily buses, even though they are expanding subways. don't even get me started on cost of living. even if you made of 50 thousand a year you wouldn't really be able to BUY a house, rent yeah, but not buy. that along with gas, insurance, and number of people make getting around miserable. traffic is bumper to bumper from 5-9am and about 3-8pm. oh, and the smog here is terrible.
i know that i will many of these exact same gripes in korea, but they will be new. but because i will be able to experience a new culture and learn new things i am willing to put up with them. they are not that big a deal, they just drag you down a bit after living with it after a while.
with that said, i fully plan on coming back to LA in the future.
also thanks for your input aristotle |
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tired of LA
Joined: 06 Nov 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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| sock wrote: |
If you don't have at the very least, a bachelor's degree by the time you get here, don't bother coming.
Another teacher I know is Chinese-American. Everyone assumes she's gyopo, so she's learned how to say, "I don't speak Korean," and she repeats it a lot. |
i do have a bachelor's degree, graduated a few years back. i took some time off, got a job and then decided to go back and get my teaching credential. so how do you say "i don't speak Korean". i think i might try and pull that off too, thanks for the idea sock. |
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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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| "I don't speak Korean" --> 한국말 못해요 han-gu-mal mot-he-yo |
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Ben Glickman
Joined: 10 Mar 2004
Location: Vancouver, B.C. Canada
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| Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:33 am Post subject: Shotgun Approach |
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| From our perspective, we don't tend to expend a lot of effort on teachers that are applying to many schools and recruiters at the same time. The schools we work with don't tend to like it either. We have limited resources, therefore we focus on helping candidates that are working exclusively with us, or just applying with us and a few other places. I'm not saying the other approach doesn't work - but I know that our perspective is shared by many of our clients. Many clients in the public sector (public school districts) will reject candidates if they receive the same resume from multiple sources. |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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You could try the other kind of shotgun approach, come over here, knock up some girl, have to get married, and get your F? visa  |
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princess
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: soul of Asia
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| Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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| aristotle84 wrote: |
I personally think you're clinically insane if you're quote, "tired of LA".
I envy you. One of the reasons why I'm going to teach in Korea is because I'm a down home country boy who is trying to save money to eventually settle in Los Angeles.
That and I want to visit Korea again to become more culturally aware.
Anyway, if you're already in LA, stay there!!! If I had a solid family base or any connections there, I would be there by now.
With that said, I think you'll have a harder time than most looking for a good job.
1) You're not white
2) You're not even Korean-American (gyopo)
But, if you search long enough, like I did (I am gyopo), you'll find one that is okay. I'd say the people with the hardest times looking for a job are black people and in general, dark-skinned folk like Arabs.
Nothing against them, but this is how the hagwan industry works. Koreans can be some really bigoted people. |
But LA is so freaking expensive!!!! I think I'd have to have as much money as those stars to REALLY enjoy LA. Common people are in for a bad treat living in LA! |
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aristotle84
Joined: 04 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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| aristotle84 wrote: |
I personally think you're clinically insane if you're quote, "tired of LA".
I envy you. One of the reasons why I'm going to teach in Korea is because I'm a down home country boy who is trying to save money to eventually settle in Los Angeles.
That and I want to visit Korea again to become more culturally aware.
Anyway, if you're already in LA, stay there!!! If I had a solid family base or any connections there, I would be there by now.
With that said, I think you'll have a harder time than most looking for a good job.
1) You're not white
2) You're not even Korean-American (gyopo)
But, if you search long enough, like I did (I am gyopo), you'll find one that is okay. I'd say the people with the hardest times looking for a job are black people and in general, dark-skinned folk like Arabs.
Nothing against them, but this is how the hagwan industry works. Koreans can be some really bigoted people. |
But LA is so freaking expensive!!!! I think I'd have to have as much money as those stars to REALLY enjoy LA. Common people are in for a bad treat living in LA! |
Have you ever lived in LA?
If not (from what you said it seems like u haven't), then how would you know common people are in for a bad treat living in LA?
Just a thought... |
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princess
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: soul of Asia
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| No, I haven't lived in LA, but I have a cousin who lives in California, and it costs SOOOOOOOOOOO much for her and her husband to live there...and they have great jobs, too!!! At one point, they RENTED a house for $5000 a month...GEEZ!!! RENT!!! Not mortgage(ownership). There were no cheaper houses available at the time. I think it's funny how many people think the US is the land of milk and honey, but it's not! |
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spliff
Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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| Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 3:52 pm Post subject: Re: shot gun approach?? |
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| tired of LA wrote: |
| so i decided to just do it and started applying to jobs and recruiters. my question is, should i take the shot gun approach? meaning should i just apply to everyone and everything, including some of the less reputable recruiters, and see how it goes or should i only go with the more reputable recruiters. so far i have registered with footprints and park english. i have also registered with atc, but they haven't responded except for a generated confirmation email. |
Give it a little time, geezzeeee  |
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