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zappadelta

Joined: 31 Aug 2004
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:11 pm Post subject: Close/Clothes - Same? |
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| Hi, I was wondering if you pronounce these 2 words exactly the same. I am talking about close, as in not open, not as in near. I think I pronounce them the same way, what about you? |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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| I pronounce them the same. So does the Merriam Webster dictionary: kloz |
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Kimchieluver

Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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| I pronounce the "th" as probably many Canadians do. |
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ilovebdt

Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Location: Nr Seoul
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Kimchieluver wrote: |
| I pronounce the "th" as probably many Canadians do. |
Me too  |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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| ilovebdt wrote: |
| Kimchieluver wrote: |
| I pronounce the "th" as probably many Canadians do. |
Me too  |
Me three. My phonics book notes that both are acceptable. To Koreans with their phonetically perfect alphabet, however, understanding that there are two ways of pronuncing words like 'neither' can be a little difficult. |
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dogshed

Joined: 28 Apr 2006
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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If I'm speaking very slowly I'll say the slightest hint of the th but usually I just say close like close the door.
Yesterday I was explaining to the math teacher that clothing was the mass form of clothes. I'm not sure I understand it now that I think about it.
Sometimes I will point out that Americans will slur things and demonstrate some variations they will hear. I know it confused me when Germans would slowly demonstrate some word or phrase and then they wouldn't actually say it that way when speaking normally.
-Jeff |
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Boodleheimer

Joined: 10 Mar 2006 Location: working undercover for the Man
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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| i put in a hint of a th. (unless i've been drinking and the Virginia comes out... then there's no th whatsoever.) but if my students are having real problems with it (and most do), i'll tell them it's acceptable to pronounce it like 'close'. otherwise i get a lot of 'clo-thes', which bugs the crap outta me. |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003 Location: England
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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| It's the first time I have heard that clothes can be pronounced like close. |
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ella

Joined: 17 Apr 2006
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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| I would never pronounce the "th," it sounds like you have a speech impediment. |
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ilovebdt

Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Location: Nr Seoul
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| ella wrote: |
| I would never pronounce the "th," it sounds like you have a speech impediment. |
Wow, I guess the guy who wrote the Cambridge English dictionary had a speech impediment too.  |
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zappadelta

Joined: 31 Aug 2004
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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| For those of you who do pronounce the 'th', is it a 2 syllable word for you? Pronouncing the 'th' using 1 syllable is almost impossible for me. |
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twg

Joined: 02 Nov 2006 Location: Getting some fresh air...
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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| zappadelta wrote: |
| For those of you who do pronounce the 'th', is it a 2 syllable word for you? Pronouncing the 'th' using 1 syllable is almost impossible for me. |
One syllable
Score one for superior Canadian tongues!
As your wives and girlfriends all know... Bwa hah hah hah! |
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xtchr
Joined: 23 Nov 2004
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, I pronounce the 'th'.
(from NZ) |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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| yup, th. Slight, but it's there. |
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thebum

Joined: 09 Jan 2005 Location: North Korea
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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| if i'm in the mood, i pronounce it. if i'm not, i don't. |
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