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freethought
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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What, and get beaten up for looking American. This is an anti American rally
Although 40,000 police vs 7000 protesters seems a bit much. Unless these farmers bring their pigs to make up the numbers.. |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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Why in the world would you want to attend a protest where any westerner is going to be assumed by many to be an American, and hence, a target of hate?  |
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 1:25 am Post subject: |
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Why would you want to protest free trade talks anyway?
And why would you go ANY protest in a foreign country. Ain`t yo biz...BEYOTCH!!! |
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Beej
Joined: 05 Mar 2005
Location: Eungam Loop
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 1:32 am Post subject: |
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Of course the Koreans are against free trade. They already got rich by selling crap to the USA while protecting their own markets.
Other than rice farmers, I dont see why anyone would be against a free trade agreement. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 1:39 am Post subject: Re: Protest... teachers.... anyone going??? |
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AND, it is a violation of your E2 visa to be "protesting" or involved in a protest march or engaged in political activities or unionization or union activities.
The penalty for any of which is arrest, detention and deportation AND a ban as a "persona non grata". |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:51 am Post subject: |
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"Why would you want to protest free trade talks anyway?"
NAFTA shafted Canada and Mexico.
Do you really think the US would enter into any agreement where they didn't get the better deal? |
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cwemory
Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Location: Gunpo, Korea
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 3:05 am Post subject: |
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NAFTA shafted Canada and Mexico.
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l.o.l.
take it to the current events forum. |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 3:45 am Post subject: |
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"l.o.l.
take it to the current events forum."
It is pertinent to the thread in that one poster asked why anybody would be against free trade. Free trade is a good thing, unless one of the economies is getting the short end of the stick. The Koreans are afraid they are getting the short end of that same stick. I gave an empirical example of a country(ies) that would have been better off without that particular agreement. I agree with the farmers et al that they should be very wary of any free trade agreement with the US. |
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Slep
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 3:54 am Post subject: |
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To be fair, it's slightly disenginous to say that Canada and/or the US got the short end of the original FTA or that Mexico did in NAFTA.
Let's be honest, certain segments of each populatino did amazing as a result of Nafta. Bombardier, for one, has been an enourmous winner as a result of the NAFTA deal.
US farmers as well. |
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Siscoe
Joined: 05 Jan 2006
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Bank of Canada just came out and said, in fact, that despite the wailing of doomsayers back in 87, Free Trade has been a boom for Canada.
Don't know about Mexico, but Canadians are kicking butt in the free trade game. |
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wylies99
Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:24 am Post subject: |
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AND, it is a violation of your E2 visa to be "protesting" or involved in a protest march or engaged in political activities or unionization or union activities.
The penalty for any of which is arrest, detention and deportation AND a ban as a "persona non grata".
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LEGAL teachers probably have to be at work that day, anyway.  |
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jaganath69
Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:36 am Post subject: Re: Protest... teachers.... anyone going??? |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
AND, it is a violation of your E2 visa to be "protesting" or involved in a protest march or engaged in political activities or unionization or union activities.
The penalty for any of which is arrest, detention and deportation AND a ban as a "persona non grata". |
To that end, I will demand the deportation of the Dokdo riders or any other clowns trumpeting that particular hackneyed cause when they next disgrace my fair shores. |
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cwemory
Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Location: Gunpo, Korea
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:43 am Post subject: |
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| poet13 wrote: |
"l.o.l.
take it to the current events forum."
It is pertinent to the thread in that one poster asked why anybody would be against free trade. Free trade is a good thing, unless one of the economies is getting the short end of the stick. The Koreans are afraid they are getting the short end of that same stick. I gave an empirical example of a country(ies) that would have been better off without that particular agreement. I agree with the farmers et al that they should be very wary of any free trade agreement with the US. |
I was joking a bit. i'm sorry. don't take it (or me) too seriously. 
i was reading a few articles today about how bad the negotiations for the FTA were going. one mentioned that even before the u.s. elections there was less than a 10% chance of there being a agreement by 2010. with a democrat controlled u.s. congress now, the only hope for the deal would be a 2008 sweep of congress by the republicans, and even that would push the fta far beyond the mandate of any u.s. or korean politician supporting it.
it appears that maybe today's protestors already got their wish weeks ago, the u.s. labor and farmer groups opposing it too. |
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cwemory
Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Location: Gunpo, Korea
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US farmers as well. |
Perhaps this belongs in another (CE) thread but, I was always under the impression that while huge corporate farms, both U.S. and Canadian, did well, small farmers, both u.s. and canadian, were one of the segments most hurt by the deal. Is that an incorrect impression? |
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