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Korea vs. Taiwan vs. Japan
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 3:11 am    Post subject: Korea vs. Taiwan vs. Japan Reply with quote

Do you agree or disagree with this assessment? It seems pretty much spot on to me.

http://www.geocities.com/esl_korea/TaiwanvsKoreavsJapan.html
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matko



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: in a world of hurt!

PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's pretty well perfect (don't know about Taiwan though)

You posted that before didn't you?

Great overview.
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

matko wrote:
It's pretty well perfect (don't know about Taiwan though)

You posted that before didn't you?

Great overview.


Yeah, I posted it a long, long, long time ago.

Actually I'm at the 1500 posts mark, so I've been going through old posts that I can still delete to keep my posting at the 1500 mark. Its a challenge to say the least.

I deleted this one, then thought it might be interesting conversation, so just re-posted it Wink

(Darn, now I have to delete something else to keep me at the 1500 post mark)! Wink
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The Great Wall of Whiner



Joined: 24 Jan 2003
Location: Middle Land

PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've done all three and have made up an extensive post at some point (try searching for those who wish to read it).

Korean wins overall for many reasons.
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matko



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: in a world of hurt!

PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why then did you post your location as "the penisula of pain"!! Wink
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The Great Wall of Whiner



Joined: 24 Jan 2003
Location: Middle Land

PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A loooooooooooooooooooooooooong time ago Matko!
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matko



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: in a world of hurt!

PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, maybe I misunderstand. But under your avatar it says

"location"

Peninsula of pain


PS. I still think you'll make 2000 before anyone else!!

I'll bet on it Twisted Evil
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The Man known as The Man



Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!

PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

matko wrote:
Sorry, maybe I misunderstand. But under your avatar it says

"location"

Peninsula of pain


PS. I still think you'll make 2000 before anyone else!!

I'll bet on it Twisted Evil


I'll take that bet.

$50.00 Canadian on Kiwiboy.
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mack the knife



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: standing right behind you...

PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've two friends working in Taiwan right now. One loves it, the other is sick to death of it. Both have been there about 2 years. The one who loves it says the foreigners are "so laid back and cool". The other says the foreigners are "so arrogant and cold". Both of them love Taipei and especially the fact that it's much more "westernized" (read: tacos readily available) and user-friendly than Seoul. The former leaves Taipei on an almost weekly basis and heads to the coast for *GASP* surfing and camping, while the latter pretty much bums around in the capital and does the usual bar/restaurant routine. The former has no plans to leave Taiwan anytime soon, while the latter is ready to move on.

Many, if not most of the complaints about Korea and foreigners living in Korea come from folks who live in Seoul (and perhaps they don't get out of Seoul much?). Connections? Correlations? A penny for your thoughts... Idea
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makushi



Joined: 08 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taiwan is definitely the most laid back of the three, and it's the only place that you might actually forget that the locals are from a different culture...and in terms of down and dirty no strings attached fun....it rocks...if you know where to look...that said, the teachers life there is much more demanding...than Korea or Japan...imho
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never been to Taiwan but I've did Korea and Japan and Korea wins out on almost every level.

Japan is so over-rated. I met a lot of teachers there who talked about Korea like it was some kind of third-world country.

Us guys in Korea have the last laugh. Korea is much more fun than Japan and if you find a decent job you can make a lot of money for very little effort.
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dogbert



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210

PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WTF does Mapplethorpe have to do with teaching ESL in Asia?
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chi-chi



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mods you may delete

Last edited by chi-chi on Sat Jul 30, 2005 5:36 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Walter Mitty



Joined: 27 Mar 2003
Location: Tokyo! ^.^

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mack the knife wrote:
I've two friends working in Taiwan right now. One loves it, the other is sick to death of it. Both have been there about 2 years. The one who loves it says the foreigners are "so laid back and cool". The other says the foreigners are "so arrogant and cold". Both of them love Taipei and especially the fact that it's much more "westernized" (read: tacos readily available) and user-friendly than Seoul.

I was about to make a joke about the availability of tacos being the yardstick of civilization - then I realized it's not a joke! It really is!
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matko



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: in a world of hurt!

PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eamo wrote:
Never been to Taiwan but I've did Korea and Japan and Korea wins out on almost every level.

Japan is so over-rated. I met a lot of teachers there who talked about Korea like it was some kind of third-world country.

Us guys in Korea have the last laugh. Korea is much more fun than Japan and if you find a decent job you can make a lot of money for very little effort.


Well, I also have done both.

I hardly think you have the last laugh. If I thought Korea was so great I could easily go there. It's alot easier to find a job in Korea than Japan.

Having said that,any teacher trying to decide between countries should read the link that Tiger beer posted and decide for Him or her self which country is best for them.

As for me, there is no bloody way in hell that I will EVER work in Korea again. I had a decent employer. I just couldn't stand Korea!

The only times I will ever step foot in Korea again is on a stopover or to visit some of my great students and friends that I have worked with over the years in Both Korea and Canada.
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