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brocktastic



Joined: 08 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:13 pm    Post subject: come on, we're not all that bad. Reply with quote

i am finishing my contract here.
i have an MA from a great university in canada.
i had really good jobs back home.
and i am sick of people assuming i am here because i can't get a job back home. not the case.
sure, i have met some crazy waygooks, but also some really cool people.
more good than bad, i would say.
i wanted to experience another culture and see much of asia.
i had a great time. learning, living, loving...
it's been a good year - good job, met some amazing people - but i can't shake this feeling that teaching english in korea is something that will be underappreciated when i get home.
thoughts?
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cbclark4



Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan

PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oversees jobs are good for resume.

Will you be teaching?

There is a huge teacher shortage in Florida.

cbc
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Brocky



Joined: 20 Oct 2006
Location: DPRGBSK, The Democratic Peoples Republic of Great Britain in South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose it depends on your own personal outlook. How long have you been in South Korea? If it has only been a few years, it could be regarded as a career break. If you are considering a job in the teaching sector, you can regard it as an interesting challenge, utilised in order to better prepare you for your future career.

Personally, I am only 22 and straight out of higher education. My previous job offer on Kenya fell through. I have a year off before Sandhurst and I needed to fill a gap.

If however, you are a 45 year old, morbidly obese, balding spakker who spent 15 years in SK chasing after young korean girls who you mistakenly believed were into you despite you not showering for weeks on end...well.

You may be ******...

Mod Edit: Edited for language.
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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Location: the crib

PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:59 pm    Post subject: Re: come on, we're not all that bad. Reply with quote

brocktastic wrote:
i am finishing my contract here.
i have an MA from a great university in canada.
i had really good jobs back home.
and i am sick of people assuming i am here because i can't get a job back home. not the case.


Right, this idea is prevalent, even among us waygooklings. You see a lot of disparaging remarks on this board about fellow teachers. I get a lot of comments from Koreans who can't understand why I wanted to come here.

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it's been a good year - good job, met some amazing people - but i can't shake this feeling that teaching english in korea is something that will be underappreciated when i get home.
thoughts?


You're just jaded from the negativity within the community. Working abroad in a foreign country is something that always looks good. It shows you are independent, self-motivated and able to adjust to difficult circumstances. Of course, if you aren't going into a teaching job, it wouldn't be quite as helpful.

Also, keep in mind that something on a resume is what you make of it. I can make just about any job sound like it will be helpful for whatever job I'm interviewing. Just gotta work on your spin / sales tactics.
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mnhnhyouh



Joined: 21 Nov 2006
Location: The Middle Kingdom

PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:09 pm    Post subject: Re: come on, we're not all that bad. Reply with quote

brocktastic wrote:

it's been a good year - good job, met some amazing people - but i can't shake this feeling that teaching english in korea is something that will be underappreciated when i get home.
thoughts?


I have just finished teaching 6 consecutive terms (2 years) in Tasmania, which means the department is now obliged to give me a job within 65 km of home for the rest of my life. (This negates the view that I would come to Korea because I couldnt get a job at home).

Salaries go up by experience, so next year I would be on AUD$55,000. Teaching for a year in Korean will add another year experience so if I were to come back I would not miss out on the pay rises.

However I have only lived here for two years and am not likely to come back.

h
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Alyssa



Joined: 15 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:59 pm    Post subject: Re: come on, we're not all that bad. Reply with quote

brocktastic wrote:
i am finishing my contract here.
i have an MA from a great university in canada.
i had really good jobs back home.
and i am sick of people assuming i am here because i can't get a job back home. not the case.
sure, i have met some crazy waygooks, but also some really cool people.
more good than bad, i would say.
i wanted to experience another culture and see much of asia.
i had a great time. learning, living, loving...
it's been a good year - good job, met some amazing people - but i can't shake this feeling that teaching english in korea is something that will be underappreciated when i get home.
thoughts?


What an intelligent person you are. I liked the way you wrote "MA" and the way you wrote "canada". I guess it shows your real feelings about your country. What was your MA in? Ping pong?
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Big_Crazy_Ape



Joined: 05 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What an intelligent person you are. I liked the way you wrote "MA" and the way you wrote "canada". I guess it shows your real feelings about your country. What was your MA in? Ping pong?


hahaha, I love the hate Alyssa!
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Satori



Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 12:09 am    Post subject: Re: come on, we're not all that bad. Reply with quote

Alyssa wrote:
brocktastic wrote:
i am finishing my contract here.
i have an MA from a great university in canada.
i had really good jobs back home.
and i am sick of people assuming i am here because i can't get a job back home. not the case.
sure, i have met some crazy waygooks, but also some really cool people.
more good than bad, i would say.
i wanted to experience another culture and see much of asia.
i had a great time. learning, living, loving...
it's been a good year - good job, met some amazing people - but i can't shake this feeling that teaching english in korea is something that will be underappreciated when i get home.
thoughts?


What an intelligent person you are. I liked the way you wrote "MA" and the way you wrote "canada". I guess it shows your real feelings about your country. What was your MA in? Ping pong?

Jealousy will get you nowhere Professor!
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Atavistic



Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 3:28 am    Post subject: Re: come on, we're not all that bad. Reply with quote

Qinella wrote:
I get a lot of comments from Koreans who can't understand why I wanted to come here.


I like my home country, but I asked people the same thing there. I think a lot of times it sounds to foreigners like Koreans don't like their own country, but I think it's more curiosity about why you came here.

When I get that question, I explain why I chose Korea over China or Japan. As soon as you say something nice about why you chose Korea (something nice about the people, not the women, money, or ease of finding a job), you're golden. At least, that has been my experience.
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Homer
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be careful not to mistake what you read on here as being representative of foreign teacher sentiment in Korea....
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seoulsista



Joined: 31 Aug 2005

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always worry about how Korea will appear on my resume. I think for anyone not familiar with the hagwon industry it might appear like Q said that I am independant, able to adapt etc.

But where I am from people seem to know everything and I am always anxious that I will end up interviewing with people who will know that my decision to come here was simply a cop-out to pay off my loans quickly and that I worked in an industry that's one step above having to wear a nametag.
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

seoulsista wrote:
But where I am from people seem to know everything and I am always anxious that I will end up interviewing with people who will know that my decision to come here was simply a cop-out to pay off my loans quickly and that I worked in an industry that's one step above having to wear a nametag.


One step above having to wear a nametag? Heck, I've had to wear a nametag in this industry! Laughing
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caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SD. :

I would like to start a thread about how people feel about your avatar.
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numazawa



Joined: 20 Mar 2005
Location: The Concrete Barnyard

PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

seoulsista wrote:
I always worry about how Korea will appear on my resume.


Could look a bit crowded on an A4. Wink
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Homer
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends how you present it seoulsista and at what job you apply.

If the job is education-related then your experience here can be valuable if you took the time to develop teaching skills here (yes even at a hakwon).

If the job is not education-related your experience might be worth nothing because, well it would not be relevant to your work field and in fact should not even be on your resume.

Resumes should be tailored to jobs you apply for and contain only the experiences that are relvant to the position you are seeking. Cramming a resume with any and all experiences is actually something that will lower your chances of getting an interview and a job.

How you present your experience is also important. You need to show how it can be valuable to your employer. If you see your experience as worthless then you might as well leave it out of the resume.

Teaching in Korea you are using and developing skills that can be useful as a teacher back home or in certain other jobs. However, you need to have actually developed these skills and not just cruised on auto-pilot playing bingo! (not saying you did that but some do).
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