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Malaysia - your verdict?
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mrroboto



Joined: 29 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 2:36 pm    Post subject: Malaysia - your verdict? Reply with quote

After finishing up in Korea, I got home to Canada and started to feel the need to be in Asia again. I've got an opportunity to go study multimedia design type stuff at a school there, and I'm wondering what the lifestyle is like...

Anyone have an opinion they'd like to share? How does it compare to Korea? Think an ex-teacher could hack it there for 3+ years?

Thanks
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The Lemon



Joined: 11 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GO. Don't think twice.

I'd love to live in Malaysia, but there's no great demand for native English teachers there - you'll find most people have a reasonable level of English, especially compared to Thailand or here.

Some people don't like it because to them it's boring - the prostitute scene isn't what it is in Thailand, and they're seriously strict about drugs. But it's also a lot cleaner than Thailand, and slightly (though not much) more expensive.

It's a very cool, multicultural society. It's not quite happy-society-living-in-harmony that the government there claims - there's a lot of resentment from the Malay majority at the wealtly Chinese minority, and there has also been a growth in Muslim fundamentalism, particularly in the northeast - but it's a refreshing change from the monotony and homogenity of Korea. And people seem a lot happier there.

I've been there three times. Plotting my next return now.
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hojucandy



Joined: 03 Feb 2003
Location: In a better place

PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i agree with lemon - malaysia is a great place - go there. i have been there twice, both times related to my former life as a government vet in png. to me malaysia has a perfect climate - humid tropics. the food is good, the people very friendly, there is a lot of english. itis clean and safe to eat mots everywhere.

they have the most wonderful fruit!!! mangoes, lychees, durian, mangosteen, coconuts, rambutan, sapote, papaw, longan - and all cheap. yu could live on fruit!!!

there is some racial tension. mostly islam is not too fundimental though. it is more resentment between chinese and malays. i have many friends there - mostly indians. it is a multicultural place. some of the best south indian classical music i have ever seen was in malaysia.

i would give a lot to live there. check out the deserted beaches on the east coast.
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camel96
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where in Malaysia...? KL...?
Malays are very, very friendly and helpful.
Go for it. Buy an air-con.
Lemon's right about the cultural harmony being a little overrated. All things considered for how diverse it is, it is a very smooth situation BUT I'd say the other ethnic groups and minorities - Indians, Dayaks, Orang Asli etc. harbor far more grudges towards the Malays than vice versa.
Sharia law exists in a couple of the north eastern states but isn't really actively practised beyond there being seperate check outs in supermarkets for men and women. Apparently queue gropes were once a problem. I've toyed with the idea (and still kind of am) of studying there myself. Have fun.
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Zed



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Shakedown Street

PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, like Lemon said: just go.

Will you have time to travel? There are so many excellent places to go there. It's quite diverse as well. I'm looking forward to getting to Borneo on my next trip there although that isn't exactly close to the mainland.
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mrroboto



Joined: 29 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds excellent, thanks for the advice!

Camel, It would indeed be in KL. After living a year of small town Korea, I'm definitely up for some big city life. Unfortunately, the school doesn't start till February, so I'm stuck in a bitter Canadian winter until then. I might fly over to Korea first to visit friends, if the fares are cheap enough..

Lemon, because you're the go-to guy on this sort of stuff, do you know if it's just as cheap to build a pc over there? My computer got electrified back in the storms last september, so I'm not sure what's salvageable.

Hojucandy, I'm a vegetarian, so living off fruit sounds like a good idea to me Smile

Zed, Not sure if I'll have time, looks like the school has a pretty intense course load. I'm not planning on getting a job though, so I'll hopefully have time. Not sure if it's all year round, or just two semesters + summerbreak, so that might give me some breathing room.

school link: http://www.limkokwing.edu.my
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Zed



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2003 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Within striking distance from KL, there are west coach beaches (in season), Cameron Highlands and Teman Negara National Park (well you'll need at least a 4 day weekend to visit this last one but well worth it).
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go. Race relations are better than, say, the present-day US Deep South. I love it.
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buddy bradley



Joined: 24 Aug 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was in Malaysia for a short while and would definitely recommend it. More fun than Singapore. English is actually wide-spoken there (British English, but there's no real difference, right?). If you like hot, sticky weather then you'll really like it. I've heard that there's lots of nice islands around but I didn't have enough time to see any.
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The Lemon



Joined: 11 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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do you know if it's just as cheap to build a pc over there?

Absolutely. Imbi Plaza in Kuala Lumpur (in the Golden Triangle shopping district) is an excellent place to buy computer hardware. Prices are generally better than Yongsan.
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bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

unless the pay and/or job is bad, odds are you'll be happier there than in Korea. I really liked Malaysia and KL is great. If I could work anywhere in Asia, that'd probably be the place.
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mrroboto



Joined: 29 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 7:44 pm    Post subject: cheap way to get there? Reply with quote

alright, it's a go. Now I've got to find a flight from Seoul to Malaysia. Best my girlfriend found was 480,000 won one way. Seems like a lot.

Does anyone know a cheaper way to get there? Possibly by boat?

A flight from Montreal to Seoul is 900$ cdn, versus 1200 from Montreal to Kuala Lumpur... all on travelcuts.

so hopefully I can do a little bit better to justify this. Anyone?
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 7:47 pm    Post subject: Re: cheap way to get there? Reply with quote

mrroboto wrote:
A flight from Montreal to Seoul is 900$ cdn

Return? Good god! Really? CDN dollars? Including taxes?
I've never seen a flight that cheap... Crying or Very sad
You don't have to be a student or anything to use Travelcuts, do you?
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mrroboto



Joined: 29 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No return, I'm planning on staying for a while. Laughing

Just got a good deal through a local travel agent..
slightly under 1000$ CDN from Ottawa to vancouver to Seoul with a month layover, then to KL.

looks really good to me.
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buddy bradley



Joined: 24 Aug 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great! I wouldn't mind some Malaysian weather or friendliness right now...
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