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some waygug-in · Joined: 25 Jan 2003

There are a lot of things that bother me, but I am particularly bothered by a comment that I heard from one of my adult students.

He said that Canada has a "really good" social welfare system, and because of this many Koreans with handicapped children, or handicapped adults want to go to Canada to take advantage of all the "free" services.

I was shocked by this. Canada has enough trouble taking care of it's own, let alone being a dumping ground for the rest of the world's underprivalaged.

I am just curious. Is this really the case? Is it really so easy for people from other countries to immigrate to Canada and then just go on welfare?

I am not trying to start a flame war, just wondering what others think about this.

Cheers

desultude · Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 6:34 pm Post subject:

I have heard stories of people from the northern part of the U.S. going to Canada for free health care. You know, the U.S., where people are always ranting about illegal immigrants coming there for their great benefits.

I am sure that Canada has immigration rules, and that it is not so easy to go there from Korea and just start collecting benefits. It also costs a lot of money to move a family to another continent. Does it happen? Probably? The numbers? I would be curious to see of there were many.

The Lemon · Joined: 11 Jan 2003

crazylemongirl · Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Location: almost there...

Outside of the eu, australia and new zealand had a sweet deal. You could literally step off the plane and onto welfare. Unfourtantly the aussies complained about too many kiwis lounging around on bondi beach so the system was scraped last year.

CLG

l0ckx · Joined: 24 Sep 2003 Location: PA, USA

i was under the impression that canada's wellfare system was free, however if you needed some sort of organ transplant or major surgery you would be put on a waiting list. Not a day by day waiting list....i'm talking months. Health Care may be paid for, but it lacks a great deal because everyone takes advantage of it.

correct me if i'm wrong, but it's all smoke and mirrors to me.

peace,
l0ckx

weatherman · Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Location: Korea

Tiger Beer · Joined: 07 Feb 2003

I think that kind of things works on every level. I grew up in Michigan.. and supposedly being kind of a traditionally democratic state because of low-educated industrial work and the like.. we had a lot of good programs for people. What happened is quite a lot of people come up from the southern states and end up right on that Michigan border (more or less between Chicago and Detroit).. and its kind of drenched in.. well.. people who move there to take advantage of the system (and Michigan isn't that great.. but supposedly they have a pretty good education system among other things)..

One step further.. I made the move to California a few years ago because university tuition is significantly cheaper for California residents than anyone else.

So according to all of this logic.. it doesn't surprise me at all that people would specifically go to Canada to take advantage of whatever it has available.

I also recall reading about Russian prostitutes who had some big scheme to try to target Canadian men in particular for marriage.. because there was some law that women in Canada if they even claim that the man abuses them can get half of the wealth immediately.. or something to that effect.. maybe later I'll try to find that source again.. (that one is more rumor though.. not sure the reality on that one)..

dogbert · Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: Killbox 90210

That's why California makes you live there a year or so and jump through a few other hoops to establish residency for purposes of public post-secondary education.

Not true for AFDC (or whatever it's called now) though.

Dan · Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Sunny Glendale, CA

That's kind of like no talent, out of work Canadians going to Korea!

JUST KIDDING! I couldn't help myself. I was like holding back the dam of petty insults, but I could hold it no more :/

Tiger Beer · Joined: 07 Feb 2003

some waygug-in · Joined: 25 Jan 2003

sakamuras · Joined: 21 Jun 2003

can you make a mean burrito?

some waygug-in · Joined: 25 Jan 2003

jaebea · Joined: 21 Sep 2003 Location: SYD

Burrito powered exhaust is a fearsome weapon. Washington should be keeping a close eye to their southern neighbours rather than the far reaches of Afghanistan or Iraq.

:)

The Australian expat community is growing day by day. Especially the second and third generation children of Asian immigrants. Attracted by the lower tax rates and higher rates of employment, where English is a commodity, and pushed by a desire to learn more about their cultural and ethnic roots, means that there are a lot of Aussie born and bred types in all over the world, making a buck.

We had Kiwi's all over our backyard, but most of the traffic was one way (Kiwis into Australia) and there was some government clampdown on it, like CLG mentioned earlier.

We always get itchy like this whenever there's rugby around. :)

jae.

Starperson · Joined: 23 Mar 2003

Koreans with handicapped kids or Koreans that are themselves handicapped find it especially hard to scratch any kind of a living here.
So what if they move to Canada where they can live in a decent place and have some sort of life.