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rusty1983



Joined: 30 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:45 am    Post subject: There's probably no God..... Reply with quote

.....now stop worrying and enjoy your life.

This is an atheist campaign in London going on to counteract all the 'You are going to hell' christian adverts going up.

They appealed to the public and are doin g very well. Needless to say it is a little bit controversial

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/oct/21/religion-advertising

"The atheist bus campaign launches today thanks to Comment is free readers. Because of your enthusiastic response to the idea of a reassuring God-free advert being used to counter religious advertising, the slogan "There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life" could now become an ad campaign on London buses � and leading secularists have jumped on board to help us raise the money.

The British Humanist Association will be administering all donations to the campaign, and Professor Richard Dawkins, bestselling author of The God Delusion, has generously agreed to match all contributions up to a maximum of �5,500, giving us a total of �11,000 if we raise the full amount. This will be enough to fund two sets of atheist adverts on 30 London buses for four weeks.

If the buses hit the road, this will be the UK's first ever atheist advertising campaign. It's an exciting development, which I never expected when I first proposed the idea on Cif in June. Back then, I was just keen to counter the religious ads running on public transport, which featured a URL to a website telling non-Christians they would spend "all eternity in torment in hell", burning in "a lake of fire". When I suggested the atheist counter-slogan (now shortened for readability), the response was extremely positive, and hundreds of you pledged your support after the follow-up article.

As you read this, a new advertising campaign for Alpha Courses is running on London buses. If you attend an Alpha Course, you will again be told that failing to believe in Jesus will condemn you to hell. There's no doubt that advertising can be effective, and religious advertising works particularly well on those who are vulnerable, frightening them into believing. Religious organisations' jobs are made easier because there's no publicly visible counter-view to refute their threats of eternal damnation.

The atheist bus campaign aims to change this. In addition to the slogan, the adverts will feature the URLs of secular, humanist and atheist websites, so that readers can find out more about atheism as a positive and liberating alternative to religion. We've also set up an interactive campaign website and Facebook group, so that questions raised by the adverts can be publicly debated.

CBS Outdoor, the bus advertising company, will run the atheist adverts in January if the funds are raised � but we need your help to make this happen.

Your donations will give atheism a more visible presence in the UK, generate debate, brighten people's day on the way to work, and hopefully encourage more people to come out as atheists. As Richard Dawkins says: "This campaign to put alternative slogans on London buses will make people think � and thinking is anathema to religion."
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GreenlightmeansGO



Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hurrah!
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rubric



Joined: 28 Oct 2006
Location: Pongdongfongyong

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a religious cult.
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Rteacher



Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like organized religion - minus any spiritual benefit.

Although (when corrupted) religion is a problem, it's not the reason why everyone isn't experiencing maximum enjoyment.

All material relationships end in disappointment or frustration. The mortality rate here is, was - and will always be - 100%.

Our essential nature is eternal - reflected by the wishful desire to "live happily ever after"; but, in the temporary material world, we're like fish out of water - doomed.

Any process that can revive our dormant loving devotion to the eternal Supreme Being and restore our immortality in the spiritual universes is priceless.
http://www.prabhupadaconnect.com/HareKrsna.html
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itaewonguy



Joined: 25 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I made a point on another thread that in the near future Atheism will become a mass media vehicle and we will see flyers, billboards, community groups and gatherings. Just here comes another cult to join the ranks in mainstream!
I knew they couldnt control themselves..
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rteacher wrote:
Sounds like organized religion - minus any spiritual benefit.


Agreed. I didn't not join any religions so I have to go to meetings. Although I can't imagine any spiritual benefits from joining a religion.
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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/5372458.stm
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GreenlightmeansGO



Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you call rational thinkers a cult? I'm not buying that.

What exactly would the agenda be? Live free from superstition? Don't listen to crazy nonsense?

Yep, sounds like a mass media vehicle. The secular world looks horrible. A MASS MEDIA VEHICLE?

What?
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ED209



Joined: 17 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a Cliff Richard movie, "We're all going on a secular holiday..."
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Quack Addict



Joined: 31 Mar 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Probably".....that doesn't sound like an atheist. It sounds like a "theist". An atheist would say there "definately" is no god.
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JMO



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quack Addict wrote:
"Probably".....that doesn't sound like an atheist. It sounds like a "theist". An atheist would say there "definately" is no god.


I think agnostic would be closer.

I think its a great slogan. A major part of religion is fear. This slogan exposes that in a subtle way and has a positive message.
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IncognitoHFX



Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome.

The UK: Check.
Canada: Check.
America: ABORT! ABORT!
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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JMO wrote:
Quack Addict wrote:
"Probably".....that doesn't sound like an atheist. It sounds like a "theist". An atheist would say there "definately" is no god.


I think agnostic would be closer.

I think its a great slogan. A major part of religion is fear. This slogan exposes that in a subtle way and has a positive message.


Actually, even uber-atheist Dawkins says mostly probably there is no god, but in the absence of evidence to indicate one, it's best just to go on the assumption that there isn't one.
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ED209



Joined: 17 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quack Addict wrote:
"Probably".....that doesn't sound like an atheist. It sounds like a "theist". An atheist would say there "definately" is no god.


A theist believes there is a god. So they would say "There is definitely a god".

Atheists such as Dawkins do not speak in certainties and claim 'There definitely is no god'. There are strong atheists who claim there is no god, and from what I see I'd agree, but of course I could be wrong, so I go back to 'there probably is no god', and the unlikelihood of a god is very high.

Agnostic is also not a 50/50 fence sitting position, so you could lack a belief and call yourself an agnostic atheist or you could believe a god, but have doubts. In such a case you could be called an agnostic theist, an agnostic Christian, agnostic Muslim or an agnostic Hindu.
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sojourner1



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So when we all die, we just rot and that's it? Surely not so. It can't be, but we really don't know. What we do know is that it's healthy for humans to practice some sort of spiritualism, but one must truly fall for it and believe it to get any benefit. Going to church is a waste of time if you simply are not a believer. I believe something is up there that creates it all, but human interpretation of it is way off and a waste of time unless you look to be with others and be a part of the Christian community to gain a sense of well being.

Religion really is about people getting togethor to feel more secure and gain more peace with fears and threats. It can also be a reason for an artificial financial economic entity to exist for discreet interests such a tax evasion loop hole for the rich to funnel money through due to churches being non-profit corporations.

yes, God, there is a God in Heaven. Come save us all form the tyrannies of evil doers and vanquish all unrightous souls in limbo on this Earth to hell. Armageddon cometh! LOL give me a break. I never liked religion since all they fed me as a kid was all this scary armageddon shite that just made me feel really awful. It's the recipe for oppression of mass populations.

Hell I don't know; none of us know if this God, the creator in heaven, really is responsive and connected to churches held by humans on the Earth or if it's just a human intellectual pursuit or need due to being smart enough to understand and know that we all die. Lower lifeforms are not aware that we're all going to die so they don't need spiritualism to comfort them.
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