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[Medic]

Was in the sauna at Haeundai, and noticed some dood showering across the way covered completely in tatoos. I had to watch him using the mirrors otherwise I might have been beaten up. He had some sort of helper sitting in the lounge who was at his beck and call. He got screamed at a couple of times to get or fix something. Noticed also that he used a toothbrush to clean his nose. First time I've ever seen anybody do that. I watched to see iff he was going to use it to brush his teeth too, but he moved out of my mirror vision.

Anyone out there seen these guys, and know what theyre involved in

[Homer]

Medic....they are mafia...take a wild guess what they are "involved in"...

[humanuspneumos]

Well the rumors are:

* Human trafficking - Asian-Based Organized Criminals (Koreans) were reported as having well "infiltrated" with "impunity" quite a large number of airports- including Inchon- as reported by major news papers and policing intelligence sources. They move people (prostitutes and illegals) back and forth- Canada has recently been reported their now favorite destination where they can jump into a van and move persons to the USA too. This translates into controlling ports of entry/departure. A "jockey" escorts the women to these places as a "partner" and insures they come back. If you are ever in Inchon late at night you might notice a few fellows passing out envelops, calling on a young man with a map, and then calling out for their "partner" to come up to the counter. Tourguide?- naw- it only takes one tourguide per group not one man per one young lady with their "passport packet." The older rich guys are the one's going on dates- these people are up to something else.


* They influence/control the women who come and go in the Parlors, Room-Salons, Noray-Bangs, Tea Rooms (Da-bang), and Motels. Some of these women have burn marks on their arms, tatoos, and other symbols of the Korean mafia.

* They were reported as being used for the purposes of breaking-up strikes within labor unions.

* They have been reported as having strong ties with the Japanese mafia which interestingly embraces Koreans who moved to Japan a long time ago and were regarded as "outcasts."

* These days with the demand for blonde-blue-eyed women the Russian maffia has stepped up to bat in formed partnerships with them.

* Their organization is said to be fluid, having multinational ties, and is an ever growing problem. As a point of humor- they likely get frequent flier points because they are continually on the move from place to place and airport to airport as reports indicate. Their smaller groups- when caught- are sometimes caught doing several levels of crime at the same time- money saver. It would likely cost them $20.00 to do some nasty deed since they are already en-route with something else funding them.

* Their crimes from big to small- murder (hitmen), kidnapping (includes kidnapping young korean ladies from right off the street in front of their home and transporting them to some other country for prostitution), rape, drug exports, car thefts, extortion (extortion of their own nationality in Western countries- "pay or else"), bla, bla, bla.


* Interestingly the young, underpaid, glassy-eyed cops/security guards just seem to watch them move from point "A" to point "B" without blinking- they seem to have an "untouchable" attitude. Some reports pointed a finger at Korean police tied into them.

Anyway- it's best to stay away from places where these guys hang and have influence. And- sometimes having your eyes opened to an underworld isn't exactly healthy- ignorance can be bliss. Curiosity killed the cat.

[Gwangjuboy]

[ulsanchris]

the kiddnapping wouldn't surprise me one bit.

One way pimps back home get girls to work for them is to kidnap them and shoot them up full of herion. once the girls are addicted then they put them to work as prostitutes so the girls can make money to pay for their habit.

[humanuspneumos]

Well, 20 cases- that's a pretty big order- how about 20 cases in one article?


http://citypaper.net/articles/2002-08-22/cb2.shtml

[tsgarp]

This paper and it's article are about one notch above the Weekly World News. One anecdotal account; no other sources; no facts, just broad generalizations, speculation, and innuendo.
Come on, you can do better.

[Gwangjuboy]

[humanuspneumos]

[kiwiboy_nz_99]

They also own legit businesses as fronts for their activities. If a guy owns 8 or 9 bars and is not connected to one of the wealthy families then he's mob. You don't get to own that many bars by hard work and saving your money.

[igotthisguitar]

>. What of all the ADJUMAS ???

The high-strung dudes w/ tattoos are one thing, these cunning "i ain't getting no good lovin' no more" middle-aged hens
are the ones you should really be afraid of

[ulsanchris]

What is so hard to believe about the mafia kidnapping girls and putting them into prostitution. This has been going on for years.

[humanuspneumos]

Some people believe everything and some people believe nothing. It's interesting that the bulk of these guys can't be shut-down in Korea when "tapping" cell phones (and I'll just take a "Slippery Slope" line of logic in assuming other phones) is done with such ease in Korea.

Heck- the Korean gangsters are always whipping out their cells and interception of text-messaging/calls can't be that hard. If we can eye-ball these guys after living some years in Korea, why are the police in Korea and other countries so ineffective????

If it's true that the AOC is raking in Billions upon Billions of dollars there has to be lots of what I believe the CIA/FBI call "noise" or "chatter." Even if these organizations have an elaborate code- likely only 6 months of interception would do it to get the drift of what they are up to. Surely governments still have the bulk of higher tech (though I do notice the Russians are selling lots of "higher tech" to the world e.g. GPS blockers that can block GPS signals in a wide-wide area.

[Yesterday]

GwangjuBoy is right - here is another destination the girls are taken to -

Women Sold Into Sex Slavery In Houston

UPDATED: 2:51 pm CST February 20, 2004

HOUSTON -- Modern-day slavery is a $9 billion a year worldwide industry, and Houston is one of the hubs for this business, the News2Houston Investigators reported Thursday.

Women and children desperate to come to this country have no idea the life of servitude that waits for them -- a life where they're forced to pay off enormous smuggling debts by working in some of our city's so-called massage parlors and 24-hour spas.

A girl young enough to enjoy cartoons was old enough to be shipped to the United States like human cargo.

As she watched TV, an undercover agent counted the money used to sell her life.

News2Houston obtained a copy of the undercover video.

"OK, there's $18,000. That was the amount, the full amount," the undercover agent said. "Are you ready? I have your passports."

"It's a worldwide problem. It's epidemic," said Mike McMahon, the associate special agent-in-charge.

It's an epidemic that spreads from the Far East to Houston to all points in between -- young women smuggled into this country and forced to work as prostitutes in massage parlors and 24-hour spas. They are the victims in what many consider a victimless crime.

This case began in a hotel room, where undercover agents tried to ensnare a smuggling operation by negotiating to bring two women to Houston.

"This will get you in, and that's what our deal is -- $18,000 to get you in," the undercover agent said.

"They come from countries across Asia and are taken to Narita (Japan), then from Narita to Houston USA," a man said.

Immigrant agents broke the back of an organization that smuggled the faces of the innocent to Houston, officials said.

Most women thought they would be working in restaurants or hotels, but in turn, were forced to prostitute themselves at spas and massage parlors. It's the only way they can pay off their smuggling debt.

"Many times they're denied medical care. They're kept in small groups. Their passports are removed, restricting them from travel. They are not allowed to communicate with family members," McMahon said.

A smuggling debt can run anywhere from $40,000 to $50,000. Yellow self-sticking notes were on the wall of a Houston massage parlor. Marks showed just how many men the women were forced to sleep with every day to pay off their smugglers.

If the women don't turn a profit, then they are shipped off to other cities. Or the smugglers start in with the threats.

"It's the threat of harm against their family members in the countries they've come from. And many times, that's the greatest threat the smugglers have," McMahon said.

Most of the women caught up in the government's investigation were sent to work in so-called massage parlors and spas. And these businesses are cropping up all over the city, from near downtown, along Highway 59 on the southwest side, and up north on Interstate 45.

Investigators said these types of businesses are where some women are robbed of the very freedom they wanted to come here for.

If you have any doubts about what goes on in these businesses, News2Houston sent a 22-year-old woman armed with a hidden camera to apply for a job. However, she was free to leave at anytime. Some are not so lucky.

"How (are) you going to work? Can you work full time or just part time?" a man asked the News2Houston woman.

"You look pretty and maybe you could have some experience, you could make money. A lot," another man said.

"Can you start anytime soon? Before Super Bowl?" another man asked.

In the back rooms and dark hallways of these businesses, most jumped at the chance to hire the News2Houston woman.

"What do you use the bed for?" the woman asked at one location.

"I'll explain that later to you, but, you know, it's kind of hard because you've never done this before. Are you from here?" a man asked.

At first, the woman was told there were no openings, but within 10 minutes of leaving a spa, a man called and tried to send her to a client at another spa. While most businesses wanted to hire the News2Houston woman, they were cautious in answering questions about what was expected.

"We mostly (do) lingerie modeling. Some customers, you know, someone should pay some more, so they can, you know, make a movie or something. I don't know exactly, you know," a man said.

"Some people -- they want to touch. Try to touch or something," another man said.

A woman at one location refused to speak English to the News2Houston woman.

In translation, she said, "No, I can't talk English, only Vietnamese. If I speak it, I don't know if you are a cop."

But one man got right to the point.

"Take your clothes off," he told the News2Houston woman.

"No, that's OK, not right now," she said.

"OK, then you can't work here," the man said.

"You're very pretty and we'd love to have you, but this is a little bit different thing," a man at another location said.

The sex slave problem is so prevalent, the Coalition Against Human Trafficking held it's first annual conference in Houston Thursday to discuss the epidemic.

The U.S. government estimates that as many as 20,000 people are smuggled into this country every year for forced labor and sexual exploitation. Worldwide, the numbers near a million, according to officials.


If you have a news tip for the Investigators, drop them an e-mail or call their tipline at (713) 223-TIPS (8477).

RESOURCES -

The Protection Project
Human Trafficking.com
Polaris Project
GOVERNMENT CODES
Texas Bill No. HB869: Trafficking Of Persons
Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act Of 2003
STUDY
URI: Sex Trafficking Of Women In The United States
FINDLAW.COM
The Commercial Sexual Exploitation of Children in the U.S., Canada, and Mexico
NY Times Magazine Abstract: "The Girls Next Door"
2001 State Dept. 'Trafficking in Persons' Report
REPORT TRAFFICKING
Hotline: (888) 428-7581

[humanuspneumos]

Yesterday- you said- "Gwanjuboy is right." What do you mean by that? I thought Gwanjuboy was unduly skeptical- though right to demand proof.