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Yesterday
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Land of the Morning DongChim (Kancho)
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 Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 1:49 pm Post subject: My Video Store sucks..... |
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I recently moved to a new apartment at Jamsil and on the weekend went to the local video store.
I chose three videos and at the counter gave the youngish Korean store attendent my ID card/address/phone number to copy.
She then told me - the rule was ONLY TWO videos - so I happily put one back.
She then told me the cost was 32,000 won... surprised I asked why??
She said.... "You Where-guk saddam... you pay extra 30,000 for deposit - I give it back when you give videos back......
I hid my anger... stated "SHI !!" then opened to wallet to count out 32,000 won - I then paused shook my head (NO) - looked her in the eyes and said quite abruptly - "Shiro !! and walked out of the store without hiring to the amusement of 2 other Korean customers waiting behind me at the counter....
I have been here a few years and this has never been asked of me before at a video store - usually video stores are polite places to visit with just a 1,000 won fee for each video (as many as you want).
Has this ever happened to anyone before....?? was I right to behave as I did.... I definately will find a different video store to patronise.... |
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wylde
Joined: 14 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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buy a computer and d/l what ya want off winmx and bit torrent...
i havent stepped foot inside a video shop since getting my puter @ home |
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rudyflyer
Joined: 26 Feb 2003
Location: pacing the cage
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| Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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| or buy a dvd player and get stuff from yongsan, they have current movies cheap |
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Gord
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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How dare that video store ask for a deposit from a new customer! The humanity, the humanity!
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Sojuman99
Joined: 30 Nov 2003
Location: Leaning Right
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| Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 3:27 pm Post subject: Re: My Video Store sucks..... |
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| Yesterday wrote: |
I hid my anger... stated "SHI !!" then opened to wallet to count out 32,000 won - I then paused shook my head (NO) - looked her in the eyes and said quite abruptly - "Shiro !! and walked out of the store without hiring to the amusement of 2 other Korean customers waiting behind me at the counter....
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Translation for hangkook challenged ?? |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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There are a couple video stores in my area that discriminate against foreigners also. A few months ago, I went into one with a korean friend of mine and tried to rent a DVD. The woman behind the counter said she didn't rent to foreigners. Naturally, I was pretty pissed, but thought, 'whatever, her loss.'
A friend of mine had a similar experience at a different place. The woman said that foreigners bring movies back late. My friend asked her if koreans never did that and walked out.
Now, the thing is that these places are losing a substantial amount of business because there are MANY teachers in the area I live, so really it's just a stupid stupid business decision. But, they can run it how they want. |
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Mosley
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 5:03 pm Post subject: Gord.... |
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| Save some of those rolling eyes for yourself. The OP said that the indication was he was being singled out for being a foreigner; and he'd never been asked to leave a deposit at other places. I agree w/the OP: sounds bogus. I've rented from 4 places and have never been asked for a deposit nor been given limits on the number of tapes rented. |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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I've never been asked for a deposit at a video store BUT I've been to apartments of fellow teachers and found their extensive video collections were videos they liked and never returned when they moved on from wherever it was that they used to teach.
I'd say the store in question has had unfortunate encounters such types in the past- I wouldn't blame them a bit for such a policy, as long as you got some sort of receipt.
Having said that though, video stores are a dime a dozen and I'd probably do the same thing you did- just walk out and head to the next one. |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210
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| Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Gord wrote: |
| How dare that video store ask for a deposit from a new customer! The humanity, the humanity! |
Gosh, Gord, I've read your stories about dead-beat customers and deposits, but didn't notice that your policy was based on the ethnicity of your customers.
(ObFairness) This is the same sort of shit that got Denny's in trouble. So no, it does not only occur in Korea. |
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Juggertha
Joined: 27 May 2003
Location: Anyang, Korea
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| Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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my video store is more than cool. i've been through 3 owners and all seem cool with me.
Yeah i'm often late with returns.. BUT I always pay the late charges (they're really small). |
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Korea Newfie
Joined: 27 Mar 2003
Location: Newfoundland and Labrador
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| Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Gord wrote: |
| How dare that video store ask for a deposit from a new customer! The humanity, the humanity! |
Gather 'round kids, this is what it looks like when someone totally misses the point.
My places have been cool. Unfortunately, the OP's was descriminatory. That sucks. If it had been me, I'd have reacted the same, minus the going for the wallet at first. Also, I'd probably have dropped the videos on the floor. But I'm an ass. |
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Gord
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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| dogbert wrote: |
| Gosh, Gord, I've read your stories about dead-beat customers and deposits, but didn't notice that your policy was based on the ethnicity of your customers. |
It's less the race and more the citizenship. If I rented a couple games to a Japanese national who then didn't return them, what I am going to do? I can pout and that is about it. I had people in my store all the time from all over the world asking to rent games with just their passport. Wasn't going to happen with a credit card or cash deposit.
But the idea of renting games to a non-citizen on their promise to return it without serious documentation to show where they live and that they are employed? Not going to happen.
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| (ObFairness) This is the same sort of *beep* that got Denny's in trouble. So no, it does not only occur in Korea. |
Substantial difference being that at Denny's you aren't taking away something on the promise to return it later, and the discrimination was based on race rather than citizenship. The treatment received here is far better than what a non-citizen would receive at most video stores in North America.
Though about half the video stores I've been to in Korea requested a deposit for the first rental. So I paid it, and got it back. It's not a big deal. |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210
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| Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Gord wrote: |
| dogbert wrote: |
| Gosh, Gord, I've read your stories about dead-beat customers and deposits, but didn't notice that your policy was based on the ethnicity of your customers. |
It's less the race and more the citizenship. If I rented a couple games to a Japanese national who then didn't return them, what I am going to do? I can pout and that is about it. I had people in my store all the time from all over the world asking to rent games with just their passport. Wasn't going to happen with a credit card or cash deposit. |
I predicted that would be your response -- "it's the citizenship".
However, from what we can glean from the OP, there was no inquiry as to citizenship -- it was based on his/her ethnicity. Admittedly, the chances are slim that a non-ethnic Korean has Korean citizenship, but there are at least a few hundred, if not a few thousand, such persons.
Not to mention that there is no indication in the OP that the store's deposit policy works out to "citizen = no deposit required/non-citizen = deposit required". What do you suppose may have happened had an ethnic-Korean citizen of the PRC had been a customer?
More to the point, what was your policy, Gord? Was it based on citizenship, or did you require a deposit of all customers? As I recall in California, at least, every new customer at many video rental shops had to indeed leave a credit card imprint or a cash deposit. I believe this was regardless of citizenship, as I was a U.S. citizen, yet had to provide a deposit.
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| But the idea of renting games to a non-citizen on their promise to return it without serious documentation to show where they live and that they are employed? Not going to happen. |
I, and a few other posters, on this thread, have showed that it does happen, at least in Korea. I have provided to at least three video rental places nothing more than my home address and telephone number and been allowed to rent videos without provision of a deposit.
But I think you may have been talking of your own store in Canada. If that is true, then your own website seems to indicate that you could replace the words "a non-citizen" with "any individual" and have the above paragraph read equally correctly.
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| (ObFairness) This is the same sort of *beep* that got Denny's in trouble. So no, it does not only occur in Korea. |
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Substantial difference being that at Denny's you aren't taking away something on the promise to return it later.
Though about half the video stores I've been to in Korea requested a deposit for the first rental. So I paid it, and got it back. It's not a big deal. |
Frankly, it would not have been a big deal to me, either, but I happen to agree with the OP here. And no, there really is no difference with the Denny's situation. Are you aware of what occurred there to which I referred? |
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peppermint
Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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| Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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| If the issue is citizenship, how's this for a solution. The last time I rented a video, I had to leave my ARC as a deposit. It's got my address, and place of employment on it- should be easy enough to find me then- no? |
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Gord
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| dogbert wrote: |
I predicted that would be your response -- "it's the citizenship".
However, from what we can glean from the OP, there was no inquiry as to citizenship -- it was based on his/her ethnicity. Admittedly, the chances are slim that a non-ethnic Korean has Korean citizenship, but there are at least a few hundred, if not a few thousand, such persons. |
The original poster said he had already given his ID card, which clearly would have shown the person to not be a citizen.
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| Not to mention that there is no indication in the OP that the store's deposit policy works out to "citizen = no deposit required/non-citizen = deposit required". What do you suppose may have happened had an ethnic-Korean citizen of the PRC had been a customer? |
At which time then we would be having a dicsussion on what the reasons were for the deposit, and if they were valid. Right now, requesting a deposit from a non-citizen is acceptable everywhere to my knowledge.
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| More to the point, what was your policy, Gord? Was it based on citizenship, or did you require a deposit of all customers? As I recall in California, at least, every new customer at many video rental shops had to indeed leave a credit card imprint or a cash deposit. I believe this was regardless of citizenship, as I was a U.S. citizen, yet had to provide a deposit. |
To rent a game without any sort of deposit:
1. Driver's Licence
List ends there short of emotional appeals such as "I live next door and spent $5000 here yesterday" for example.
Someone walks in the door with non-citizen ID, well, sorry. Cash or credit card.
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| I, and a few other posters, on this thread, have showed that it does happen, at least in Korea. I have provided to at least three video rental places nothing more than my home address and telephone number and been allowed to rent videos without provision of a deposit. |
Same deal with me as well. However, I don't feel requesting a cash deposit for a new customer who is a non-citizen to be discrimnatory. The Only ones who do appear to be in this thread, as legally it's allowed.
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| But I think you may have been talking of your own store in Canada. If that is true, then your own website seems to indicate that you could replace the words "a non-citizen" with "any individual" and have the above paragraph read equally correctly. |
Stores don't require written notices and can discriminate for a host of reasons. Some are prohibited such as race or sexual orientation, but I can decide I refuse to rent to people simply because I don't like them as a person, they don't bathe, or simply because I don't trust them.
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| Frankly, it would not have been a big deal to me, either, but I happen to agree with the OP here. And no, there really is no difference with the Denny's situation. |
Yes, I am aware. However, they were discriminated against because they were black. Here, the discrimination was because of citizenship. The first being illegal, the second not.
Basically the OP wanted to see racism, and thus he now sees it where there is none. The video store wants the income from renting, but he also wants his videos to come back. If he was truly racist, he would have completely refused to rent or demanded a huge deposit that would be held for so long as the person was a customer. Asking for a desposit to cover the cost of the videos should they not come back is not out of line. |
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