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Radius
Joined: 20 Dec 2009
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 Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:39 am Post subject: Foreigners here |
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Im 29. But i feel as though i totally cannot relate to most foreigners here--NOT ALL, but a lot. I choose not to spend much of my time with them at all anymore. Either they are too immature, or have no respect for the local culture at all. Its just gotten to the point where it has became entirely way too embarrassing to hang around with them in public. Talking obnoxiously waaay too loud in English on the subways or buses is one of my pet peeves. Keep it at a respectable volume. and saying thank you in English at restaurants when they have been living here for 2 years. Come on, you cant say Goo-mop-sum-nida yet?
And NOONE can say anything about this, because we all know back home in America it pisses us the hell off when we hear loud un-native voices flooding the ear space. Am i alone on ths issue? Anyway, thats my view.
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 6:17 am Post subject: |
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| Talking obnoxiously waaay too loud in English on the subways or buses is one of my pet peeves |
Americans do this everywhere. You only notice it more here because the Koreans are not saying anything. Probably cos they're all sleeping or watching tv on their I phones.
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oldtactics
Joined: 18 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 6:20 am Post subject: |
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| You need to get out of Seoul. Visit some other cities and realize that not all of us are just here to party with other waygooks. |
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nfld_chingu
Joined: 29 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 6:40 am Post subject: |
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| I usually say "Thank you" in English because 99% of Koreans seem to understand what it means; often they even say "Thank you" to me in English as well when I leave stores, restaurants, etc. I used to say "kamsahamneeda" but I got tired of people laughing at my pronunciation. |
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DorkothyParker
Joined: 11 Apr 2009
Location: Jeju
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| Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 6:47 am Post subject: |
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As a foreigner I am greatly saddened by this post. Over the course of countless other posts, I feel you have proven yourself to be the pinnacle of maturity as well as a foremost expert on Korean culture (and in only eight short months, blessed be!).
Your rejection of your fellow foreigners has come as a surprise to many of us, I think. And that fact that you should post this declaration and then state you do not care about other opinions, well, I think we all understand why. (Because you are the utmost authority, truly).
I think I speak for us all when I tell you, we shall try harder in the future. Please don't give up on us yet. |
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Steve_Rogers2008
Joined: 22 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:18 am Post subject: |
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| Talking obnoxiously waaay too loud in English on the subways or buses is one of my pet peeves |
Americans do this everywhere. You only notice it more here because the Koreans are not saying anything. Probably cos they're all sleeping or watching tv on their I phones. |
it ain't just Americans.... any expat anywhere will do it, and especially ones with a large appeal to the college age set. 
just another lesson I learned from Indiana Jones, the best example of an American overseas.... make friends with the native community, get them on your side, and have at it. if you're lucky, it'll pay some pretty good benefits. esp. if you have one of the bevy of beautiful Korean co-workers. 
Whether you're fighting Nazis soldiers, spies, or cult leaders, always ask yourself, WWID? works every time!  |
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Senior
Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:23 am Post subject: |
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My companions talking loudly and obnoxiously in public absolutely slays me. It makes me uncomfortable, for sure.
Saying "thank you" to someone who serves you is nothing. Either the person serving you doesn't care, or they get a kick out of it. Making your order in hard to understand English "Uhhh, yea, can I get some of that pork meat, no hot stuff and some beer please," now that is obnoxious. |
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curiousaboutkorea
Joined: 21 Jan 2009
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| Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:32 am Post subject: |
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I gotta say, the talking loud on subway/buses really does get to me. I just can't fathom why someone thinks it's ok.
The 'thank you' thing is a little silly. It is pretty easy to learn to say that basic store/restaurant speak. Shopkeepers, servers, etc seem to be willing to listen to me speak my basic Korean, and they use Korean when speaking to me. |
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:46 am Post subject: Re: Foreigners here |
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| Radius wrote: |
Im 29. But i feel as though i totally cannot relate to most foreigners here--NOT ALL, but a lot. I choose not to spend much of my time with them at all anymore. Either they are too immature, or have no respect for the local culture at all. Its just gotten to the point where it has became entirely way too embarrassing to hang around with them in public. Talking obnoxiously waaay too loud in English on the subways or buses is one of my pet peeves. Keep it at a respectable volume. and saying thank you in English at restaurants when they have been living here for 2 years. Come on, you cant say Goo-mop-sum-nida yet?
And NOONE can say anything about this, because we all know back home in America it pisses us the hell off when we hear loud un-native voices flooding the ear space. Am i alone on ths issue? not that I care, but thats my view. |
Step 1: Get over yourself.
Step 2: Get involved in something..
Step 3: Profit.
Step 4: Realize Step 2 was completed for you, which is more than South Park gave you. |
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WadRUG'naDoo
Joined: 15 Jun 2010
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:20 am Post subject: Re: Foreigners here |
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| Radius wrote: |
Im 29. But i feel as though i totally cannot relate to most foreigners here--NOT ALL, but a lot. I choose not to spend much of my time with them at all anymore. Either they are too immature, or have no respect for the local culture at all. Its just gotten to the point where it has became entirely way too embarrassing to hang around with them in public. Talking obnoxiously waaay too loud in English on the subways or buses is one of my pet peeves. Keep it at a respectable volume. and saying thank you in English at restaurants when they have been living here for 2 years. Come on, you cant say Goo-mop-sum-nida yet?
And NOONE can say anything about this, because we all know back home in America it pisses us the hell off when we hear loud un-native voices flooding the ear space. Am i alone on ths issue? not that I care, but thats my view. |
+1
And these incidences always seem to happen when I'm wearing my shiny, pink han bok. Ruins it all for me. |
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conrad2
Joined: 05 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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| I hope that Koreans speaking Korean loudly on the subway bothers you just as much. And you should be equally as offended when Korean shop owners speak English to you first. But im guessing no on both accounts. |
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wiganer
Joined: 13 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:39 pm Post subject: Re: Foreigners here |
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| Radius wrote: |
Im 29. But i feel as though i totally cannot relate to most foreigners here--NOT ALL, but a lot. I choose not to spend much of my time with them at all anymore. Either they are too immature, or have no respect for the local culture at all. Its just gotten to the point where it has became entirely way too embarrassing to hang around with them in public. Talking obnoxiously waaay too loud in English on the subways or buses is one of my pet peeves. Keep it at a respectable volume. and saying thank you in English at restaurants when they have been living here for 2 years. Come on, you cant say Goo-mop-sum-nida yet?
And NOONE can say anything about this, because we all know back home in America it pisses us the hell off when we hear loud un-native voices flooding the ear space. Am i alone on ths issue? not that I care, but thats my view. |
A christian conservative who wears a viriginity wedding band - am I right?
Oh and from the United States - too much judgemental nonsense for it to be a citizen from the other 6 countries. This post is all about the fact he knows a thousand words in Korean and he has come on here to berate us all whilst bragging how culturally tuned in he is to his new home.
I hereby sentence you to life(r) in Korea. |
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djsmnc
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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| Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 2:12 pm Post subject: Re: Foreigners here |
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| wiganer wrote: |
| Radius wrote: |
Im 29. But i feel as though i totally cannot relate to most foreigners here--NOT ALL, but a lot. I choose not to spend much of my time with them at all anymore. Either they are too immature, or have no respect for the local culture at all. Its just gotten to the point where it has became entirely way too embarrassing to hang around with them in public. Talking obnoxiously waaay too loud in English on the subways or buses is one of my pet peeves. Keep it at a respectable volume. and saying thank you in English at restaurants when they have been living here for 2 years. Come on, you cant say Goo-mop-sum-nida yet?
And NOONE can say anything about this, because we all know back home in America it pisses us the hell off when we hear loud un-native voices flooding the ear space. Am i alone on ths issue? not that I care, but thats my view. |
A christian conservative who wears a viriginity wedding band - am I right?
Oh and from the United States - too much judgemental nonsense for it to be a citizen from the other 6 countries. This post is all about the fact he knows a thousand words in Korean and he has come on here to berate us all whilst bragging how culturally tuned in he is to his new home.
I hereby sentence you to life(r) in Korea. |
He makes a pretty valid point, but just a little narrow in scope is all. There are a lot of loud, annoying, rude, f-head foreigners here, but it's a bit much to slag on foreigners as if they are unworthy of befriending. I've met some who are culturally aware, and others who act completely dumbfounded and ridiculous, even after a few years in Korea. However, regardless of what many of them say or do, I've found that most people could care less here, unless they have a vendetta against foreigners or they see a foreigner acting out of line (ie doing something illegal, acting very immature).
Also, there are a lot of Koreans who do stupid and inappropriate stuff. Definitely. That can't be used as a justification for being an ass, though. I always like the "Well, Korean guys do it" or "I've seen Koreans do that before." Great, so you can be a filthy piece of worthless trash that deserves to have his/her tongue repeatedly papercut and salted because you've seen someone else do it. I hope you see someone eat dog poop off the ground too! |
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sallymonster
Joined: 06 Feb 2010
Location: Seattle area
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| Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:17 pm Post subject: Re: Foreigners here |
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| Radius wrote: |
| Talking obnoxiously waaay too loud in English on the subways or buses is one of my pet peeves. |
I have a loud voice, so you're probably referring to me. In any case, I do try not to talk too loud, but sometimes if I'm not thinking about it the volume of my voice will increase, so sorry about that.
Some foreigners definitely annoy me, too, though. Some foreigners are quite unfriendly and/or cliquey. What really irks me though are those foreigners who seem to only care about drinking/partying. Now, I enjoy going to bars, karaoke, and the occasional club as much as the next person, but I like other things too. I just feel that there's more to life (in Korea and elsewhere) than drinking and partying 24/7. |
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is so delicious
Joined: 28 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:24 pm Post subject: Re: Foreigners here |
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| wiganer wrote: |
| Radius wrote: |
Im 29. But i feel as though i totally cannot relate to most foreigners here--NOT ALL, but a lot. I choose not to spend much of my time with them at all anymore. Either they are too immature, or have no respect for the local culture at all. Its just gotten to the point where it has became entirely way too embarrassing to hang around with them in public. Talking obnoxiously waaay too loud in English on the subways or buses is one of my pet peeves. Keep it at a respectable volume. and saying thank you in English at restaurants when they have been living here for 2 years. Come on, you cant say Goo-mop-sum-nida yet?
And NOONE can say anything about this, because we all know back home in America it pisses us the hell off when we hear loud un-native voices flooding the ear space. Am i alone on ths issue? not that I care, but thats my view. |
A christian conservative who wears a viriginity wedding band - am I right?
Oh and from the United States - too much judgemental nonsense for it to be a citizen from the other 6 countries. This post is all about the fact he knows a thousand words in Korean and he has come on here to berate us all whilst bragging how culturally tuned in he is to his new home.
I hereby sentence you to life(r) in Korea. |
Actually, he's Canadian. But I know, non-Americans can't go five minutes without taking a vague, sweeping, in this case completely arbitrary and unfounded jab at us from the comfort and security of their computer, or apparently their heads will explode...
Speaking of judgemental nonsense... |
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