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[Radius]

Seriously now. 2ne1, G dragon and the likes are just up-chucked American rap/RandB hacks. So today i got into a pretty intense argument when one of the girls in my class was singing 2ne1, and i motioned to her that Korean pop is a mirror image of American music. she FLIPPED out on me saying that America copies Korean music . I had to finally agree to disagree with her before she broke down into tears. But its actually embarrassing to watch these singers perform. i forgot the one song by 2ne1, maybe "clap your hands" or something like that. If you saw the video you'd swear they grew up in inner city NYC. And they get praised for being "different." 2ne1 is also setting up to promote their group in America in 2011? can ne1 say FLOP?!
*I normally turn a deaf ear to kids music, but today when i got reamed for suggesting K-pop copies American pop, i about lost it!

[Jake_Kim]

The truth hurts, yet there is no way you as a foreigner can convince that kid otherwise. She just have to figure that out the hard way or remain oblivious. My bet is on the latter.
Ask her if she knows anything about the history of K-pop, say, pre-2000s. Those 'producers' behind today's K-pop stars used to be front-line entertainers themselves back in those days, and your kid wouldn't have a clue how many times they were caught and disgraced for plagiarism.

[Chet Wautlands]

One can't help but wonder why this is important to you.

[nukeday]

[DorkothyParker]

I'd have had a similar reaction is someone told me that New Kids on the Block was a copy of New Edition (they were).

This is the way of pop music. For what it's worth, supergroups, regardless of national origin or supposed "originality" are dead in America. Unless they play their own instruments (even poorly), it's solo or nada.

PS. Nukeday, Nicholas Cage's hair is a bird, and your argument is invalid.

[Radius]

[Chet Wautlands]

[Chet Wautlands]

[Globutron]

It's the same thing as when a song uses samples from old songs and we youngsters take them as original pieces.

I couldn't count the times I've angered or upset younger kids back home telling them that their music is a shabby rip off of an old classic.

For example:

This http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVP7N9_Q6hs

Compared to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOKoca0NfPA

Although nowadays people are just ripping songs off from about 3 months before, they seem to be that short on ideas.

I tend to see K pop as trying to be something that was already done, late 90's pop, and not doing too well.

I see J-pop, however, as having tried to be western, succeeded, and then took it a step further and become its own thing.

Such as this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKCmfEVmf-E

[Radius]

[definitely maybe]

If you really want to push the agenda, a couple clips from Youtube ought to shut the kids up. I'm not really sure it's worth the effort though.