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[Derrek]

Anyone know a good place to have a site hosted?

My provider back home doesn't have a solution a certain problem I've been having with uploading large files. I want to get something here, so I can also get a localized e-mail address.

[thebum]

If you have a good connection, don't mind keeping your computer on all the time, and your ISP allows it (or maybe even if it doesn't) you can host stuff from your computer. As for a local e-mail address, you can get a hanmail address no problem.

[Derrek]

can I do this with only Windows XP Home?

I have my own domain. Can I use that?

[thebum]

I think you can with XP Home. I'm not sure if it has IIS or not though. You could always run apache. Also, you could probably find a copy of XP Pro without trying too hard, but I wouldn't recommend it for a business or for most things work-related.

[the saint]

[SuperHero]

Whatever happened to Gord? He would have had all the answers!

[Demophobe]

I dont have all the answers, but its good to think about it like this:

If you use P2P as much as I do, then the question of KT or whatever ISP you have worrying about how much you upload/download is answered. I upload many, many GB of files every week, as do I download, so the question of KT kicking in my door for bandwidth consuption is null. They won't. If I have a site with Terrabyte of files, but limit my conections to say 30 (I haven't the friend/contact base to get that many hits for a long time. If you get more than that, it's time to get a real server, with a domain registered with an ISP), the uploading/downloading won't be anymore significant that the amount I am already doing.

Now, think about "hits" on your IP. Is this the same as P2P? I am not sure, but I surmise it is. On the network, people connect to my machine to get my files. Over the course of a day, hundereds of "hits" on my IP are made, and hosting, I guess, would be no more significant than that. Even if you recieve a hundred "skype" calls per day, that's a hundred hits on your IP. Yes, the bandwidth isn't great for thjat kind of program, but we have already seen that bandwidth isn't the issue.

So, we have considered hits and bandwidth. Now, about a domain. Can you use your domain without the ISP knowing? No. I think this is where we have to actually contact them, and thus, our cover is blown. They will know we are up to something when we go to register our domain name, or whatever one must do to have your IP associated with your domain. After all, a URL is for ease of use, nothing more. Behind the URLs are just IP addresses, nothing more.

Now, I guess if one doesn't mind hosting a site with the name 203.211.63.87, then all is well and fine. As for getting the site hit by Google when they search, I haven't a clue. I guess this only comes with domain hosting, not IP hosting, as everyone with a connection has this.

So, one can create their own website and server, but one can't "advertise" it without going the next step; registering a domain name and having an always-on server running.

However, as I said before, how many hits do you expect in the first while? After some time, experience and your "site" is built and ready to go public, then one has to bite the bullet and contact KT for the logistics of hosting. For the initial time, if it's only Dave's community, friends and family that will give you hits, then the IP (no domain name) will probably be adequate.

http:// 204.67.83.130

Not pretty, not easy to remember.

It can be done with ease, but not exactly as other sites are; one can't "get your name out there", as it were. I had an FTP set up for a while, with limited success. It worked fine; people could connect and see the files, so the same thing would be true for HTML viewing/interacting.

The difference between a site like blogger.con and my machine is only one of domain name. If you can live without a proper name for your IP, then I think its totally doable.

Am I even on topic anymore? Just rambling....sorry.

[Derrek]

Well, I understand it from the domain point... just pay the hosting company and tell them to "point" the address to your number.

Thanks for the info.

My biggest concern is power. I don't want to run my Pentium 4 all day long. Thought about building a low-cost machine with a VIA 1.0 megahertz chip in it. They are quiet, and take very little power.

I won't be getting a lot of hits, anyway.

[the saint]

[Demophobe]

Quite right, saint. I wasn't using (due to ignorance) correct terminology in regard to who-controls-what within a network.

My entire post was kind of a hunch...not so much factual, as you have shown.

So then, it seems very doable. Skip KT....what they don't know won't hurt them.....?

[Giant]

Its very easy to setup. As far as I know, on Home you dont have IIS but I could be wrong.

ANyway, install IIS from control panel, add/remove programs, and then select add/remove components on the left side.

Find IIS and just install it all, itwont hurt to have it all.

All you need is a "permanent" domain name, for that go to www.no-ip.com and download their little utility. Register and make a domain name.

Once IIS is setup, you will have a folder called "Inetpub" on the root of your C drive. In that folder you will find a folder called "wwwroot" and in there is where you will edit your htm file.

Well, this is a short version of how to set this up, if you need more help email me on [email protected]

Cheers
Brian

[mithridates]

Nice! I just changed my board from http://mithridates.netfreehost.com to http://mith.zapto.org . What's that? 1,2,3...(counting) 34 keystrokes to...21. Minus the http:// I suppose. Thanks Giant.

Edited because there isn't supposed to be a period next to the url!

[SuperHero]

[the saint]

[Giant]