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matesol
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:35 pm Post subject: North Korean Women: Sold Out! |
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this is an "interesting" article ....
http://www.parapundit.com/archives/002121.html
Will Female Shortage In China Bring Down North Korean Regime?
Chinese men are buying North Korean women as wives.
But it's easy for Chinese, including smugglers and human traffickers, to cross illegally into North Korea, they say, and this props up a thriving black-market border trade that helps keep the barren North Korean economy afloat.
Dandong natives such as laid-off factory worker Lao Zhou, whose picturesque home town draws tourists eager to spy on North Korea with telescopes, shake their heads when they talk about refugees.
"North Korean women make good wives. They are beautiful and hard-working," he said, echoing an oft-repeated view. "It doesn't cost much to buy a North Korean girl for a wife and just a few thousand kwai (hundreds of dollars) to get them a residency permit."
There is also a slave trade in prostitutes. The demand for prostitutes will likely rise right along with the demand for wives.
Consider the larger context for this report about wife buying and female sex trade. On my FuturePundit blog I've reported on the sex ratio imbalance in China caused by the selective abortion of females.
Li said the normal newborn sex proportion is 100:104-107, and if China's disproportionate figure is allowed to continue unchecked, there would be 30 to 40 million marriage-age men who would be single all their lives by 2020.
"Such serious gender disproportion poses a major threat to the healthy, harmonious and sustainable growth of the nation's population and would trigger such crimes and social problems as mercenary marriage, abduction of women and prostitution," Li said.
Some believe this sex ration imbalance will make China militarily aggressive and they may be right.
In a new book, Bare Branches: Security Implications of Asia's Surplus Male Population (MIT Press), Valerie M. Hudson and Andrea M. den Boer warn that the spread of sex selection is giving rise to a generation of restless young men who will not find mates. History, biology, and sociology all suggest that these "surplus males" will generate high levels of crime and social disorder, the authors say. Even worse, they continue, is the possibility that the governments of India and China will build up huge armies in order to provide a safety valve for the young men's aggressive energies.
But consider a different possibility: Chinese men may buy so many North Korean wives that North Korea will either become militarily aggressive or collapse from within. This is not implausible. Those 30 to 40 million single men in China in the year 2020 mean there wil be 3 to 4 times more single men in China than there are women in North Korea. The Chinese will be more affluent than the North Koreans unless radical changes happen to North Korea's economy. North Korea is the place where Chinese men will have the best competitive advantage in angling for wives. The other East Asian countries are not nearly as poor as North Korea and North Korea shares a long 1,416 km land border with China.
China's economy is growing rapidly. Buying power of Chinese men is rising. Even poor Chinese farmers can afford to buy North Korean women.
Lee, the former clerk, said she was fooled into believing she would have a good life in China. "One day, a man from my home town came to see me. He was looking for good-looking women from North Korea to go to China. The prettier the better. I decided on the spot to go.
"Of course, he fooled me. He said he would introduce me to a good man, a university graduate, who was looking for a wife. Then I realized North Korean women were being sold at a cheap price to rural farmers in China."
The fact that even a rural farmer in China can afford to buy a North Korean wife means that there are far more people in China with the buying power to acquire a North Korean wife than there are North Korean women.
Expect the hostility of North Korean men toward China to increase.
Ryu remembers a woman six months pregnant arriving at the camp. The baby's father was Chinese. Four guards grabbed the woman's limbs and threw her toward the ceiling over and over until the woman aborted the fetus. Ryu helped clean up the blood afterwards. "The guards said they hated Chinese babies," says Ryu. "The North Koreans hate the Chinese now, because they are rich and betrayed socialism."
China has been cracking down on North Koreans trying to cross the border into China. But official corruption in China is sufficiently widespread that black market forces will probably prevail over official policy as a consequence of the rising buying power of single men desperate for wives.
Ms Kim was picked up a year after getting married and giving birth to a daughter. Her new family pleaded for her release, arguing that the baby needed her mother because she was still breastfeeding. Ms Kim says they paid a 10,000RMB bribe for her freedom. Three years later she is well established and has a residence permit.
Chinese men will pressure the Chinese government to allow North Korean women to pass into China. The Chinese government will see these women as a source of women to reduce the frustrations of single men who can not find Chinese wives. Chinese leaders are going to have to weigh the foreign policy and domestic policy consequences of their border policy with North Korea. If they continue to clamp down this may just encourage more corruption.
Chinese money is also going to flow to North Korean border guards and officials and corrupt them as well. This is already happening. So the North Korean guards are not all immune to the enticements of cash in exchange for looking the other way. As living standards rise in China and the female shortage worsens the amount of money available for smuggling women out of North Korea will rise.
The shortage of women in China may end up posing an existential threat to the Pyongyang regime more powerful than anything US policy makers are likely to do. North Korean leaders might react to this threat by engaging in market liberalization reforms aimed at raising North Korean living standards enough to reduce the level of desperation of North Korean women.
The regime in North Korea faces a more general economic threat from China because of rising wages in China. The higher the wages go the greater the incentive for Northeast China factory managers and other businesses to turn to the black market to supply cheap North Korean labor. This will pull both men and women out of North Korea. Will that destabilize the regime more or less than the selective removal of women from North Korea? |
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dulouz
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Location: Uranus
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:04 am Post subject: |
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TY, thats a good article. |
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Alias

Joined: 24 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:41 am Post subject: |
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Expect the hostility of North Korean men toward China to increase.
Ryu remembers a woman six months pregnant arriving at the camp. The baby's father was Chinese. Four guards grabbed the woman's limbs and threw her toward the ceiling over and over until the woman aborted the fetus. |
Jesus Christ thats disturbing!  |
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Free World

Joined: 01 Apr 2005 Location: Drake Hotel
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:35 am Post subject: |
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dulouz wrote: |
TY, thats a good article. |
ya man, thanks. that was a good read. it will be interesting to watch in the years to come. |
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W.T.Carl
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:46 am Post subject: |
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I wonder why NK women would want to pollute thier pure blood line with Chinese blood. Could it be that a full belly is more than enough motivation? |
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Derrek
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 6:09 am Post subject: |
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They should print this article in every Korean publication.
Isn't this more tragic than Dokdo? |
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JacktheCat

Joined: 08 May 2004
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 6:23 am Post subject: |
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Silly rabbit.
Don't you know that South Korean newspapers are not allowed to say anything bad about North Korea. |
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Cthulhu

Joined: 02 Feb 2003
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 6:29 am Post subject: |
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JacktheCat wrote: |
Silly rabbit.
Don't you know that South Korean newspapers are not allowed to say anything bad about North Korea. |
Except the Chosun Ilbo.  |
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Derrek
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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Do you think the Chosun says a lot of bad things compared to the other Korean rags out there? Just curious -- I mainly just read the quotes put up here. |
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Cthulhu

Joined: 02 Feb 2003
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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The Chosun Ilbo generally takes a dim view of North Korea and seems to devote more critical coverage of what's happening inside North Korea than do the other papers. I think its political views make it more wary of North Korea than the other major papers, though there might be more conservative ones out there I don't know about. Some recent editorials from the Ilbo:
Seoul Turns Blind Eye to Suffering of N.Koreans
Is a "Defector-Suppressing Coalition" Forming on the Peninsula?
N.K. Should Avoid Provocation and Repatriate Kim
I like the Chosun Ilbo, though on some issues it takes conservatism/nationalism a bit too far. Even accepting there is a bias at work in their coverage I find that the Ilbo a very reasoned (or pragmatic) view of Korea's relationship with America when compared with other Korean media sources. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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I find that the Ilbo a very reasoned (or pragmatic) view of Korea's relationship with America when compared with other Korean media sources. |
In my view, that more pragmatic view comes from their anti-Roh stance. |
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Cthulhu

Joined: 02 Feb 2003
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
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I find that the Ilbo a very reasoned (or pragmatic) view of Korea's relationship with America when compared with other Korean media sources. |
In my view, that more pragmatic view comes from their anti-Roh stance. |
Yes, that's there too--it's all part of the package I suppose. I'm not a Roh fan either. |
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mullethunter

Joined: 04 Mar 2005 Location: may i present... the euro mullet
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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i like the point in the article that says that north korea will become militarily aggressive if all the women go to china. just seems funny to me. |
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The Great Wall of Whiner
Joined: 24 Jan 2003 Location: Middle Land
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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I personally know North Korean girls here in China who are stuck between staying with their abusive poor farmer husband, or go back home to torture and/or death from the NK police.
Yes, if anyone is interested in buying a NK girl, they are for sale here. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, if anyone is interested in buying a NK girl, they are for sale here.
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What's the going price, in Won?
I'm wondering why the South Korean farmers haven't figured this thing out. They need wives. The women from the North are considered 'beautiful' and are desperate for money. Seems like a match made in Pyongyang. |
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