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TECO



Joined: 20 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 11:28 am    Post subject: Tyson Reply with quote

He lost.

He is definitely done - only for the money is what they are saying about the guy.

Too bad - he's still a crazy legend.
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igotthisguitar



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 8:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Tyson Reply with quote

TECO wrote:
He lost.

He is definitely done - only for the money is what they are saying about the guy.

Too bad - he's still a crazy legend.


If the guy had an IQ of 140, I'd say this guy is biggest ahole of the century. But he seems to be only operating with a 85 IQ. I kind of feel sorry for him. The media and his managers made him the laughing stock he is today.
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Butterfly



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 8:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Tyson Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
TECO wrote:
He lost.

He is definitely done - only for the money is what they are saying about the guy.

Too bad - he's still a crazy legend.


If the guy had an IQ of 140, I'd say this guy is biggest ahole of the century. But he seems to be only operating with a 85 IQ. I kind of feel sorry for him. The media and his managers made him the laughing stock he is today.


Agreed. He's been sucked dry by those people. He'll never be a laughing stock to me.
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Nowhere Man



Joined: 08 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 12:38 am    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

I'd just note that he himself said after the fight he was doing it for the money.

While he was a great fighter, I think there is plenty of room to include him in the blame for his own demise. There's the biting. There's statements like, "I want to eat your children". There's the prison sentence. He was seriously unstable.

I do wonder what it would have been like if he hadn't gone to jail. Up to that point, he seemed undefeatable, and that was some seriously lost time in the hoosegow.
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone catch Robin Givens on Oprah a couple days ago?



She was talking about the physical abuse.. and a lot of crazy stuff.

Tyson telling her on an airplane from Moscow to the US how he was going to kill her, a very matter-of-factly. About some other time where Tyson was up on the roof. All kinds of crazy stuff.

Good episode.
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Teufelswacht



Joined: 06 Sep 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel sorry for Iron Mike - and his victims. He could have been the greatest that there has ever been. Now he will go down in history as a side-show freak of sorts.

It seems to me that the end really came in 1985 when Gus D'Amato died. Gus appeared to be the only person on the planet who really cared about "Mike" as a person. Looking at his career and his life, all went to heck after Gus passed away. If Gus had lived, who knows what heights Mike could have attained. We'll never know. And that is a shame.
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rapier



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



Robin looks a lot better than Tyson nowadays.

Still, she has mike to thank for that.
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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FUBAR



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: The Y.C.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think alot of blame on those crazy interviews has to go with his handlers, namely Don King. I read that the last time Tyson was trying to sue him, King kept him locked away in a hotel room with hookers, booze and who knows what else. By the time the deadline had passed, the lawsuit was gone and Tyson re-upped with King.

The boxing industry will be alot better place when those old guard promoters die or get run out by the new-breed of promoters (ie. former boxers) such as De La Hoya/ Jones Jr. I still can't believe that the U.S. Senators are going after steroids, while the sport of boxing has problems much more serious than a little juicing. That should be a sport that needs legislation.
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gypsyfish



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cus Damato was like a father to him and teufelwacht's right.

It's sad really he was one of the best but his legacy will be the stupid things that he did. The picture of him on the ropes is pathetic. God, he had a back you could show a movie on.
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i can't wait for the movies and documentaries. Cool
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if Hollyfield feels sorry for Tyson.

Tyson's IQ is low enough that he didn't know it wrong to bite off ears in a boxing match?
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

McBride got paid a measly 150.000 for that, and i don't believe for a moment he thought he could actually win.

What a waste, hahaha!


"I have some pain I'm gonna have for the rest of my life. So every now and then I kick your f**king ass."
Check out these Mike Tyson quotes, (entertaining!)

http://kjkolb.tripod.com/homepage/miketysonquotes.html

"There are nine million people who see me in the ring and hate my guts. Most of them are white. That's okay. Just spell my name right."

"One morning I woke up and found my favorite pigeon, Julius, had died I was devastated and was gonna use his crate as my stickball bat to honor him. I left the crate on my stoop and went in to get something and I returned to see the sanitation man put the crate into the crusher. I rushed him and caught him flush on the temple with a titanic right hand he was out cold, convulsing on the floor like a infantile retard."

on Evander Holyfield:

"He called me a rapist and a recluse.I'm not a recluse!?"
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The Bobster



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FUBAR wrote:
I still can't believe that the U.S. Senators are going after steroids, while the sport of boxing has problems much more serious than a little juicing.

I'm old enough to remember Ali in the ring ... and outside. He was not just a great fighter, he was man, and a great one.

Comparing Ali to Tyson ... ridiculous. And I do it only to show how far the sport has fallen.

I'm a little bit of a fight fan, which will surprise one or two people who judge me only by my avatar. For years I've tried to pay as little attention as possible to the heavyweights - too much money involved and there is some sense of purity to the realm that is corrupted mightily by so much geld. It begins in the matchups, where the ultimate aim is not who will win this fight but who the winner of this fight will meet next, and more importantly, how much of a crowd that will draw. It keeps going from there.

The best drama is found in the welter, bantam and middle-weight categories. The purses are smaller, but that means the guys are risking more and for lesser reward - it means they are risking everything, and partly because of who they are it'makes their triumph and loss both more pathetic and arguably more tinged with noblility. And the heart, and soul and pure energy, you can see expended in these fights is often inspiring.

In these fights, it's not about big guys circling each other and trading small punches while waiting for the opening to make that single-second KO. It's about stamina, bull-headed stubborness, and perseverence in the face of pain, and it's about who is left standing and who is not. To me, that makes it more about real life, perhaps.

As for Tyson, he was a detriment to the sport but the greater crime is that he was a larger detriment to the black community. He was a dummy all his life, used to rob old ladies on their way home from the grocery store when he was a kid, and his behavior when he was sent into the higher reaches of American society by a talent for thuggery showed not the slightest hint of elevation from those beginnings.

Fact is, I've been looking to see Tyson fall for a while now, and to read that he did it for the money says everything about him as a human being.


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