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thorin
Joined: 14 Apr 2003
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 Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 4:32 pm Post subject: Question for women |
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| A Korean teacher asked me for textbook examples of sexist remarks. He suggested "Can you smoke?" I suggested "Nice sweater." I'm not sure if it's my soju hangover or me being a guy, but I'm drawing a blank here. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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That's not sexist! It's sexy...
Last edited by eamo on Mon Jun 27, 2005 6:54 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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paperbag princess
Joined: 07 Mar 2004
Location: veggie hell
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| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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how is "can you smoke" sexist?
something sexist would be like this:
woman don't belong in the workplace, they should be at home making babies.
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nice boobs. |
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thorin
Joined: 14 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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| paperbag princess wrote: |
how is "can you smoke" sexist?
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I don't know, he's Korean and old. Traditionally, Korean women don't smoke in public. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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| How about something along the lines of: Women should be kindergarten teachers and men should be engineers. While we men discuss this, why don't you go make us some coffee? |
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tzechuk
Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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OK..
She is a judge... she is a woman!
Wow.. it's a woman taxi driver!
Women should not drive...
Women are only good for making babies...
These are the ones I can think of now.. if I think more, I will let you know. |
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thorin
Joined: 14 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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| He wants remarks one would make to a woman rather than about women in general. I told him such remarks don't exist in English as we've all been trained to avoid them but he didn't buy it. |
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peppermint
Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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I can see how "Do you smoke?" could be a bit risque in a Korean context, yes.
Others that come to mind:
-Girls aren't good at math or science
-Boys arent' good with languages ( sexism goes both ways)
-Why would you want to work after being married?- you should stay home and look after the babies.
Interesting that this question would come up. I just had a flashback to 1983 in one of my classes. The textbook said "My father is a nurse." When my Grade 6 students read that, they all cracked up laughing and made a few comments about it being "women's work" |
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Mr. Literal
Joined: 03 Jul 2003
Location: Third rock from the Sun.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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| I just had a flashback to 1983 in one of my classes. The textbook said "My father is a nurse." When my Grade 6 students read that, they all cracked up laughing and made a few comments about it being "women's work" |
This still happens in 2005. |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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"They all throw like girls."
Sparkles*_* |
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pollyplummer
Joined: 07 Mar 2005
Location: McMinnvillve, Oregon
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| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 7:17 pm Post subject: some stuff |
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| thorin wrote: |
| He wants remarks one would make to a woman rather than about women in general. I told him such remarks don't exist in English as we've all been trained to avoid them but he didn't buy it. |
Woman, make me some pie!
Woman, make me a sammich!
Woman, I done told ya to keep the beers comin!
Womaaaan... I told ya twice already... |
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crazylemongirl
Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...
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| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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For all the kiwis out there
Get your b*$tch a$$ back in the kitchen and cook me some f$@kin eggs. |
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thorin
Joined: 14 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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Tomorrow I will meet my new doctor; I hope he's friendly.
or You're a good driver, for a woman.
How about "man and wife"?
ladylike
Fireman or firefighter?
Does this stuff bother you guys? |
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ChimpumCallao
Joined: 17 May 2005
Location: your mom
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| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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| thorin wrote: |
Tomorrow I will meet my new doctor; I hope he's friendly.
or You're a good driver, for a woman.
How about "man and wife"?
ladylike
Fireman or firefighter?
Does this stuff bother you guys? |
No. Firemen and doctors were mostly male for long time and its still a male dominated industry. Just by probability alone, the firefighters and doctors being refered to are dudes. I do not find it sexist when one makes an assumption based on facts. |
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joe_doufu
Joined: 09 May 2005
Location: Elsewhere
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| Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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Questions like:
Why aren't you wearing make-up?
Why aren't you married yet?
Are you going to continue working after you get married?
Doesn't your husband make enough money that you can stop working?
What does your husband [or parents] think about [your smoking]?
Are you sure you should eat that piece of chocolate cake?
Suggestions like:
Would your husband like to [play poker] with me and my friends?
Maybe you'd like to [go shopping] with my wife.
It all depends on context I guess. |
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