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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 2:00 am    Post subject: Meth's Grip in Midwest Strangles Authorities Reply with quote

Meth's Grip in Midwest Strangles Authorities
By Stephanie Simon Times Staff Writer
Mon Jun 27, 7:55 AM ET

HILLSBORO, Mo. — The detectives were relaxing over fried pork rinds when they saw a car turn into the driveway of the farmhouse they had just raided.

The car rattled past the Confederate flag, past the skull and crossbones, heading for the overgrown yard where several addicts had been cranking out the illegal drug methamphetamine. The detectives exchanged glances. They ducked behind a truck.

When the car stopped and the driver got out, they rushed him.

"Randy!" Det. Darin Kerwin exclaimed in mock surprise. "I thought you were trying to clean up."

"Oh, man," the driver said, sweating. "Oh, man."

Rummaging through the back seat, Kerwin pulled out a McDonald's bag crammed with decongestant pills — a key ingredient for manufacturing meth.

"Oh man," the driver said again. He banged his head on his car trunk. "I'm dead."

In fact, he'd be released within hours — just as he had been the last time these officers arrested him at a meth lab, and the time before that. Swamped with meth cases, the crime lab that serves Jefferson County is six months to a year behind in processing evidence. That's not unusual.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/latimests/methsgripinmidweststranglesauthorities;_ylt=AkVVQrh6.v5K4ydigKgGcTUDW7oF;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
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paperbag princess



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

meth is a dirty and stupid drug.
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Bulsajo



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

paperbag princess wrote:
meth is a dirty and stupid drug.

I have a hunch that the list of clean and smart illegal drugs is pretty short.
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weatherman



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Truth be told, the drug of the hard users in Korea is meth, too. The Korean name for it slips me. Begins with a ph or something. Anybody have the answer?
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Derrek



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I knew a woman back home in Iowa who had to go to treatment for meth.

Meth is bad, and makes people VERY paranoid. A common sign of meth use is that the user literally screws every window door but their main door shut -- this after investing in numerous locks. She had screws every six inches all the way around the door and window to keep it from opening. Really nuts! The girl I knew had 2 security systems in the house as well. Crazy! Her boyfriend ratted her out to police when she refused to stop. She spent time in jail, then treatment, then fell in love with another addict she met in treatment. I wouldn't doubt that she started using again.

Meth is a very bad thing, and is made from common household products. The making of it gives off a strong either odor, though. So it is often made in the country in the middle of some farmer's field without him knowing about it. The meth "stills" are often uncovered in fields back home.

I heard that every person who tries meth once becomes an instant addict.
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Bulsajo



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derrek wrote:
So it is often made in the country in the middle of some farmer's field without him knowing about it. The meth "stills" are often uncovered in fields back home.

I think you're a bit behind the times on that one.

"Vancouver police say they've busted the city's largest ever meth lab in an affluent neighbourhood."

http://www.canada.com/vancouver/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=d8873c4a-bb8e-44c0-87ca-d62a0e3ff3d7
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Bulsajo



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derrek wrote:
So it is often made in the country in the middle of some farmer's field without him knowing about it. The meth "stills" are often uncovered in fields back home.

I think you're a bit behind the times on that one.

"Vancouver police say they've busted the city's largest ever meth lab in an affluent neighbourhood."

http://www.canada.com/vancouver/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=d8873c4a-bb8e-44c0-87ca-d62a0e3ff3d7
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Derrek



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bulsajo wrote:
Derrek wrote:
So it is often made in the country in the middle of some farmer's field without him knowing about it. The meth "stills" are often uncovered in fields back home.

I think you're a bit behind the times on that one.

"Vancouver police say they've busted the city's largest ever meth lab in an affluent neighbourhood."

http://www.canada.com/vancouver/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=d8873c4a-bb8e-44c0-87ca-d62a0e3ff3d7


Nope... I come from cornfield country. I was talking about my home area. You may just as well have quoted Zimbabwe instead of of Canada.

Come to think of it, there aren't a lot of affluent neighborhoods there, either. Laughing
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keithinkorea



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

weatherman wrote:
Truth be told, the drug of the hard users in Korea is meth, too. The Korean name for it slips me. Begins with a ph or something. Anybody have the answer?


I believe it's called 'patpong' or something and in this area of the world appears to be largely produced by the North Koreans. Dirty evil nasty stuff.
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derrek wrote:
I knew a woman back home in Iowa who had to go to treatment for meth.

Meth is bad, and makes people VERY paranoid. A common sign of meth use is that the user literally screws every window door but their main door shut -- this after investing in numerous locks. She had screws every six inches all the way around the door and window to keep it from opening. Really nuts! The girl I knew had 2 security systems in the house as well. Crazy! Her boyfriend ratted her out to police when she refused to stop. She spent time in jail, then treatment, then fell in love with another addict she met in treatment. I wouldn't doubt that she started using again.

Meth is a very bad thing, and is made from common household products. The making of it gives off a strong either odor, though. So it is often made in the country in the middle of some farmer's field without him knowing about it. The meth "stills" are often uncovered in fields back home.

I heard that every person who tries meth once becomes an instant addict.


Sounds similar.. when I lived in San Francisco.. my roommate did a lot of drugs.. but not sure all what. Meth was one I assumed though.

My girlfriend and I lived in one bedroom, he had the other. One day he called me on my cellphone and was saying me and my gf were 'in on it'.. we were letting people into the house and they were planting bugs all around.. then he started talking about people on the roof with guns. I didn't know what he was talking about.. so told him when I got home I'd check it out.

Later when I was home.. all the mirrors were taken off the walls and turned around (I guess he thought people were looking through them).. and all the phones in the house were ripped out of the sockets. I knocked on his door and asked him 'whats up in here?'.. and he really freaked out and saying why were we letting people in.. we were in on it.. and his eyes were huge and bugged out. My gf and I left his room immediately went into my room and locked the bedroom door. All night long we heard him pacing through the apartments - I guess he was too wired on the stuff to sleep.

Around 6am it stopped.. we took everything we could carry and got out of there.. and checked into a hotel and never went back.

The same day I talked to a few other of our mutual friends.. and he was calling them up and accusing them of being 'in on it' as well.. and apparently one was driving by all day in front of the apartment.. and people were on the roof - a SWAT team or something. Just on and on.

Last I knew, his family was getting similar calls.. and people were trying to get him to realize.. but he just got more abnormal.. stayed in the apartment all day.. and was afraid to leave because the house would be bugged worse, or more SWAT guys would get up on roof or something or another. Real weird.

Yeah, METH is REAL bad.
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desultude



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meth makes people paranoid, true. but worse. it makes them delusional, manipulative, aggressive and violent when they need a fix.

It is highly addictive, but I doubt you are "addicted" after one use, but probably after a weekend of use you are pretty well hooked.

Way back when, I partied for a weekend on coke. I realized that if ever there was a drug that could own me, that was it. I was in an environment where it was pretty much free and always available to me (one of the few women working in a pipeline camp way north of the Artic Circle in Alaska). I swore never to touch it again. In spite of a lot of temptations over the years, including the 80's and 90's on South Beach, I stayed to my word.

There are kinds of addiction. Physical dependency is not the same as psychological. I have heard that when you first get high on meth, it is a pretty great buzz, like coke and heroin. After that hooks you, the devil owns you.

Here is a good article on the topic:

http://www.narconon.org/druginfo/methamphetamine_addiction.html
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Gollum



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiger Beer wrote:
Derrek wrote:
I knew a woman back home in Iowa who had to go to treatment for meth.

Meth is bad, and makes people VERY paranoid. A common sign of meth use is that the user literally screws every window door but their main door shut -- this after investing in numerous locks. She had screws every six inches all the way around the door and window to keep it from opening. Really nuts! The girl I knew had 2 security systems in the house as well. Crazy! Her boyfriend ratted her out to police when she refused to stop. She spent time in jail, then treatment, then fell in love with another addict she met in treatment. I wouldn't doubt that she started using again.

Meth is a very bad thing, and is made from common household products. The making of it gives off a strong either odor, though. So it is often made in the country in the middle of some farmer's field without him knowing about it. The meth "stills" are often uncovered in fields back home.

I heard that every person who tries meth once becomes an instant addict.


Sounds similar.. when I lived in San Francisco.. my roommate did a lot of drugs.. but not sure all what. Meth was one I assumed though.

My girlfriend and I lived in one bedroom, he had the other. One day he called me on my cellphone and was saying me and my gf were 'in on it'.. we were letting people into the house and they were planting bugs all around.. then he started talking about people on the roof with guns. I didn't know what he was talking about.. so told him when I got home I'd check it out.

Later when I was home.. all the mirrors were taken off the walls and turned around (I guess he thought people were looking through them).. and all the phones in the house were ripped out of the sockets. I knocked on his door and asked him 'whats up in here?'.. and he really freaked out and saying why were we letting people in.. we were in on it.. and his eyes were huge and bugged out. My gf and I left his room immediately went into my room and locked the bedroom door. All night long we heard him pacing through the apartments - I guess he was too wired on the stuff to sleep.

Around 6am it stopped.. we took everything we could carry and got out of there.. and checked into a hotel and never went back.

The same day I talked to a few other of our mutual friends.. and he was calling them up and accusing them of being 'in on it' as well.. and apparently one was driving by all day in front of the apartment.. and people were on the roof - a SWAT team or something. Just on and on.

Last I knew, his family was getting similar calls.. and people were trying to get him to realize.. but he just got more abnormal.. stayed in the apartment all day.. and was afraid to leave because the house would be bugged worse, or more SWAT guys would get up on roof or something or another. Real weird.

Yeah, METH is REAL bad.


Yeah, and they crash for like 3 days and won't wake up.
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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, guitar:

I've been trying to decipher your take on the meth crisis, based on an analysis of the words you chose to highlight in the article. Which were:


Fried Pork Rinds

Confederate Flag

Skull and Crossbones

methamphetamine

McDonald's Bag

Decongestant Pills

I'm dead

Jefferson County

Okay. As far as I can tell, what you're saying is that the meth cartel is controlled by a group of anti-semitic klansmen operating out of a well-known Yale secret society who use the globalized fast food industry as a front for distributing their product and gather at Monticello on damp mornings to practice esoteric rituals imitating the death and burial of Christ.
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:
Hey, guitar:

I've been trying to decipher your take on the meth crisis, based on an analysis of the words you chose to highlight in the article. Which were:

Fried Pork Rinds / Confederate Flag / Skull and Crossbones / methamphetamine / McDonald's Bag / Decongestant Pills / I'm dead / Jefferson County

Okay. As far as I can tell, what you're saying is that the meth cartel is controlled by a group of anti-semitic klansmen operating out of a well-known Yale secret society who use the globalized fast food industry as a front for distributing their product and gather at Monticello on damp mornings to practice esoteric rituals imitating the death and burial of Christ.


BINGO !!! Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 12:13 pm    Post subject: Speaking of which... Reply with quote

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