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Nowhere Man
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 Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:50 am Post subject: Has the US ever committed an act of terrorism? |
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| A simple question. |
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dulouz
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| Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:50 am Post subject: |
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| Yes, during WWII in Dresden Germany. |
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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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| We certainly aided terrorists when it suited us. The contras in Nicaragua, Jonas Savimbi in Angola, Orlando Bosch (given a Presidential pardon despite placing bombs around the world, including murders committed on American soil) I could go on. No government has clean hands. But for a nation dedicated to the spread of freedom, we've sure been in bed with a lot of unsavory characters. |
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funplanet
Joined: 20 Jun 2003
Location: The new Bucheon!
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| Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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| You might wanna ad the UK to the Dresden fire bombings...it wasn't just the Yanks |
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Wangja
Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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| Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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| That tea party? |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Hater Depot wrote: |
| We certainly aided terrorists when it suited us. The contras in Nicaragua, Jonas Savimbi in Angola, Orlando Bosch (given a Presidential pardon despite placing bombs around the world, including murders committed on American soil) I could go on. No government has clean hands. But for a nation dedicated to the spread of freedom, we've sure been in bed with a lot of unsavory characters. |
1) the US did to the Sandanistas what they were doing to other nations. And the Sandanistas did it first.
2) After Angola allowed free elections the US cut off all ties w/ Savimbi and even put sanctions on his group.
As for Dresden it wasn't any worse than what the US did in Hiroshima.
And the object was to put an end to the war. I think both were justified .Probably Dresden was more justified. |
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bignate
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
Location: Hell's Ditch
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| Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
And the object was to put an end to the war. I think both were justified .Probably Dresden was more justified. |
So, theoretically, if North Korea were to use their nukes on the South, to put an end to the war, that would be justified? |
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isrich
Joined: 23 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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| funplanet wrote: |
| You might wanna ad the UK to the Dresden fire bombings...it wasn't just the Yanks |
And the Germans weren't bombing London at the time?
Oh and gassing a whole lot of people simply for being 'subhuman' (sorry can't remember the German term at this time)?
And the people of Dresden were not helping the German war effort?
Which was killing a lot of people also. Possibly even, relatives of all us posting on this site. |
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Summer Wine
Joined: 20 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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I hear dresden brought up a lot, what about tokyo. A firestorm was caused by the same methods, it was predominantly wooden buildings. estimated 400,000 dead.
The 3 citys left untouched by bombing in Japan, 1 was Kyoto, the other two got the bomb. Imagine, that could be considered terrorism. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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| bignate wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
And the object was to put an end to the war. I think both were justified .Probably Dresden was more justified. |
So, theoretically, if North Korea were to use their nukes on the South, to put an end to the war, that would be justified? |
Nope cause 1) the South isn't out the get North Korea. They would love to end the war w/ North Korea.
2) What North Korea fights for isn't legitmiate anyway. Fighting to destroy Nazi Germany was. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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"The radio program is to begin on 1 April [1954] and the last part of it, at D-Day, a terror program, is based on Orson Welles and is most effective."
Unlisted Author, "Weekly PBSUCCESS Meeting with DD/P," 9 March 1954. CIA Job File No. 79-01025A, Box 154, Folder 1. |
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hypnotist
Joined: 04 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
Nope cause 1) the South isn't out the get North Korea. They would love to end the war w/ North Korea.
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Are you claiming that SK's long-term aim isn't a united Korea governed by a democratically elected government based in Seoul?
Seriously? |
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jinglejangle
Joined: 19 Feb 2005
Location: Far far far away.
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| Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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How bout this question.
Can anyone name a country which has NEVER commited an act of terrorism?
(Whatever that is) |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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| jinglejangle wrote: |
Can anyone name a country which has NEVER commited an act of terrorism?
(Whatever that is) |
That's the problem. There is no widely-accepted definition of this term. One man's hero is another man's villain, and all that... |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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I suppose you should class terrorism as deliberately targetting non combatant civilians to cause mass terror and demoralisation.
I'm sure dresden and Tokyo held a lot of unarmed civilians. Same goes for Hiroshima.
Technology appears to have enabled the U.S to significantly cut the number of civilian/collateral damage- I'd say iraq has been one of the cleaner conflicts in this regard. |
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