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billybrobby

Joined: 09 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 1:10 am Post subject: Which country is the most proud? The least? |
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http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/lif_ver_pro_of_the_nat
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/lif_not_pro_of_the_nat
says america has the highest percentage of very proud citizens. and japan the highest percentage of citizens who are not proud. and yet japan comes in number 15 on the proud ranking. that pretty much fits in with what i've experienced with japanese people. big love-hate relationship with their own japanese-ness.
btw, do you guys trust this nationmaster site? some of their stats seem kinda wacky. |
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tomato

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 4:45 am Post subject: |
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I get mixed signals when I see I LOVE KOREA bumper stickers printed in English. |
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Bulsajo

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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tomato wrote: |
I get mixed signals when I see I LOVE KOREA bumper stickers printed in English. |
I agree, Konglish would be much more appropriate. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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My impression is...
Japan and Germany had the most who think the LEAST of their country in terms of pride because they lost the Second World War and still learn shame in school about it. There are tensions in these two tradionally very proud nations.
Switzerland is up there because it's a neutral country in many ways and nationalistic pride is usually tied up with allusions of superiority and with warlike sentiments.
Belgium and the Netherlands don't surprise me at all, the former because of their self-depricating humour, the latter because of the essentially inclusive, tolerant, multiethnic identity. |
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Moldy Rutabaga

Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Location: Ansan, Korea
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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Not sure.. so many American teachers I work with are sheepish about their country. Bush might have knocked the country down a few proud points.
People always tell me that Indians are extremely proud of their country.
Most murders: Columbia.
Least willing to fight for country: Japan (23%)
Most cannabis use: NZ (23%)
Percentage who wouldn't want to live next door to gays: Japan (69%), Netherlands (11%)
Most educated: Norway
Most trigger happy: South Africa
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billybrobby

Joined: 09 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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VanIslander wrote: |
Switzerland is up there because it's a neutral country in many ways and nationalistic pride is usually tied up with allusions of superiority and with warlike sentiments.
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also, all that nazi gold keeps them happy |
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Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:04 am Post subject: |
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The Swiss are an annoying nationality.. with obnoxious pride. Funny with all the gold coming in from the Jewish during the Holocaust they are most infamous for NOT letting in the Jewish people IN during the Holocaust! They closed the borders! 20,000 Jews were denied entrance well-after they KNEW they'd go into concentration camps. Turned away at the border.
Of course I'm sure their gold was well-accepted beforehand however. Sometimes you have to remind the Swiss that, particularly when they get on their soapboxes how great they are for never being involved in any war or conflict or anything else. |
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Moldy Rutabaga

Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Location: Ansan, Korea
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:44 am Post subject: |
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I'm not defending the Swiss, but just to play devil's advocate.. many, many countries refused Jewish refugees. Have a look at Abella's None is Too Many someday about the Canadian government's refusal to accept Jews fleeing the Nazis. Unfortunately, numerous countries had similar prejudices during World War II.
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Pyongshin Sangja

Joined: 20 Apr 2003 Location: I love baby!
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:02 am Post subject: |
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The Swiss are an annoying nationality.. with obnoxious pride. Funny with all the gold coming in from the Jewish during the Holocaust they are most infamous for NOT letting in the Jewish people IN during the Holocaust! They closed the borders! 20,000 Jews were denied entrance well-after they KNEW they'd go into concentration camps. Turned away at the border. |
Yeah, because a lot of countries on the European continent were doing really well against the Nazis in the 1930's. They could have attacked the Germans with cuckoo clocks. |
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Freezer Burn

Joined: 11 Apr 2005 Location: Busan
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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OK so Australia is 3rd in the world at being proud of their nation and 17th not proud You can't be both. |
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ChimpumCallao

Joined: 17 May 2005 Location: your mom
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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Having lived in quite a few countries i can undoubtedly say that Korea is the MOST nationalistic country I have ever been in. The reason for this is that although there are patriotic SOB's everywhere, Korea lacks the dissent and the self-deprication and self criticism that most other countries have. ....there ain't no Daily Show in South Korea. They may disagree on politics a bit, but as far as the nation, the food, the people, the history goes...it's untouchable. |
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Swiss James

Joined: 26 Nov 2003 Location: Shanghai
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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Switzerland also traded with South Africa all of the way through the apartheid era- a Swiss friend told me that they regarded ANC as terrorists during the 80s.
Nationmaster has some very strange stats
e.g. Lithuania has the highest per capita mortality rate for Acne.
(http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/mor_acn_cap) |
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skconqueror

Joined: 31 Jul 2005
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:59 am Post subject: |
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I am CANADIAN.. Canada Rocks. |
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peppermint

Joined: 13 May 2003 Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:07 am Post subject: |
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and people like you are why I'm ashamed of my nationality- does that balance the score? |
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the_beaver

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:34 am Post subject: |
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peppermint wrote: |
and people like you are why I'm ashamed of my nationality- does that balance the score? |
Preach it, sister.
Fucking flag-waving Canadians. . . |
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