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Yu_Bum_suk · Joined: 25 Dec 2004

What I find interesting is a few American right-wingers I've met saying things like 'I really like Bush; I agree with him on abortion and gay rights, blah blah blah, but I really wish he hadn't invaded Iraq'. They seem to think this will in the end spoil what could otherwise be a great moral agenda and mandate. They're a small minority of his supporters, to be sure, but I think this attitude says a lot and will grow. I also think that many of Bush's supporters are feeling this but don't want to say it out loud. In the end, however, I think that loyalty to Bush's moral agenda will help keep them loyal on Iraq.

Octavius Hite · Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:01 pm Post subject:

Its only going to get worse, rumour has it that after Rove testifies in the CIA leak scandal there will be dozens of indictments so watch out Bush Crime Family!

Tiger Beer · Joined: 07 Feb 2003

Pligganease · Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Location: The deep south...

I was never a "Bush Fan" back home. I usually voted Democrat, and I am a registered Democrat. However, over the past few years (Prior to 9/11) I supported some Republicans based solely on financial principles. I didn't like the Republicans' stance on social issues, so if there was a moderate Republican running, I would occasionally vote for them.

Then came 9/11.

I'll be honest. I was one of the people that wanted to see bombs dropping on someone. I didn't really care who. Planes didn't crash into a building in Toronto, Vancouver, London, Sydney, Dublin, or Cape Town. These attacks happened in the US. If you don't understand why people in the US were ready for war, then realize that you have to be an American in order to. There were millions of people like me. That's why Iraq was such an easy sell to the American people.

Truthfully, I have come to dislike the Bush administration for the lies they have told and the embarassment that they have brought to my country. These lies weren't the little lies like "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" or "Read my lips: No new taxes." These lies were lies that led to war.

However, I don't know if Bush went to war on a pretense of lies or a pretense of bad intelligence. We probably never will know. I do know this, though: Something had to, and still has to, be done in the Middle East. I don't know if Bush is doing the right thing, but I have to give him credit for trying something.

I do know this... The Bush presidency could go down in history as the era of American Shame. I'm not saying that Bush has caused the jihadists' hatred for America. Look at all the bad things that happened during Clinton's presidency. Even 9/11 was planned before Bush ever took office.

What Bush has done, though, is made us look bad in they eyes of our Allies. All this "You're either with us or against us" crap succeeded in nothing but alienating us. But, he had the balls, or lack of brains, to say it.

I know that, because I am starting to think this way, there are many others in the States that are also starting to feel this way. I have come to the opinion that Bush is going to fock up our world image as much as possible before he leaves.

With all of the benefits that the Bush administration and friends got from 9/11 and subsequent actions, with all of the supposed intelligence that there was saying 9/11 ws going to happen, and with all of the watchlists that those terrorists were supposed to be on, it kinda makes you wonder whether it was allowed to happen.

Where's Igotthisconspiracytheory when you need him?

Tiger Beer · Joined: 07 Feb 2003

mithridates · Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 10:39 pm Post subject:

Yeah, even those aluminum tubes for the centrifuges were dismissed as being unsuitable for a nuclear reactor until Cheney realized that there was about a 1% chance that it could have been used for something nuclear-related and that pressing that every day could lead to enough doubt that people would start to assume it was true.

With the lower support numbers, does that mean that less people believe that WMD was found than before? I should hope so.

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RokofKangnam · Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 1:42 am Post subject:

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee · Joined: 25 May 2003

But it would be true to say there were contacts between Saddam and Al Qaida.

Anyone who cooperates with Al Qaida deserves to be bombed.

Red · Joined: 05 Jul 2004

Does that include the state of Florida and the city of London then? SOMEONE must have been serving those 9/11 hijackers their Happy Meals. Or Rummy Rumsfeld's house since we have documented proof he worked with Saddam.