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Crips founder denied clemency from execution
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canuckistan
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 1:46 pm    Post subject: Crips founder denied clemency from execution Reply with quote

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/12/12/D8EETVQG0.html

Since he hasn't been doing so well in the polls I suspect it's more about Arnie being wary of alienating the Republican party than granting this man clemency from being murdered by the state.

I believe people can redeem themselves.

The death penalty is barbaric.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OH CRAP Canuk! What about the victims??

Let just take a quick peek at his victims...I mean WHY NOT?

WARNING, GRAPHIC PHOTOS


Albert Owens: Age 26.
7-11 clerk shot in the back by Tookie Williams during a robbery, February 1979. Mr. Owens, father of two small children, was forced at gunpoint into a back storeroom, made to kneel on the floor, then Tookie shot him in the back at close range, execution style. Afterward, an accomplice-turned-informer said Williams boasted that he "blew some white guy away, shot him in the back"... all for $63.
























Yen-I Yang: Age 76.
Taiwanese immigrant and owner of his family-run Brookhaven Motel, shot by Tookie Williams during a robbery, March 1979.










Yu-Chin Yang Lin: 43.
Daughter of Yen-I Yang and Tsai-Shai Chen Yang, also murdered by Tookie Williams. She had just immigrated from Taiwan to join her parents in helping them with their motel business.





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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tookie will get his about 12:01 Cali time....



Almost 27 years too late.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Crips founder denied clemency from execution Reply with quote

canuckistan wrote:
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/12/12/D8EETVQG0.html

Since he hasn't been doing so well in the polls I suspect it's more about Arnie being wary of alienating the Republican party than granting this man clemency from being murdered by the state.

I believe people can redeem themselves.

The death penalty is barbaric.


Barbaric? What about the pain he cause the people he killed? Eye for Eye.
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fidel



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kill him, kill them all.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shoddy forensics and "witnesses" with criminal records were used to convict him. He's always maintained he didn't do it. Couldn't that be possible?
But I suppose if you were the police chief 27 years ago with the founder of Crips sitting in your jail, you probably wouldn't want to let him get away either. Just because.

Adding a 5th killing to the tab (c/o of the state) doesn't change one damn thing.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If he didn't do those killings, he was still no doubt involved in all sorts of other criminal acts. Give or take a body or two he was still a bad ass and deserves what he will ultimately get.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

canukistan, read about the case will you? Give me a break.

While I would support a ban on capital punishment, I must say if anyone should be executed, it should be people like that dude.

Wikipedia Summary of the crimes
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

canuckistan wrote:


Adding a 5th killing to the tab (c/o of the state) doesn't change one damn thing.


Tell that to the families of the victims.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not about Tookie Williams, or the victims. It's about us.

Should we, as a civilised society, violently push a human being out of existence? What does it say about us?

It says that we lack respect for human life. Or at the very least, that we set limits to that respect.

I want justice for the victims, but I don't want it on those terms. Respect for human life should be unconditional.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love the way the NAACP blindly pulls out the usual, ��He is being executed because he��s black.�� They cheapen their name, when they support trash like this. Better people, and less high profile people I will add need your help in real racial issues.

All life is valuable, until you forfeit your right to live. I��m glad Tokkie has made something of his life, and possible saved himself, from being rammed up the @#$ in HELL. I have my popcorn ready and CNN on ��.burn baby burn.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm as against the death penalty in the US as I am against it in Singapore, or anywhere. But assuming the trial is safe I don't see why he really deserves special treatment. It would be humane not to execute him, just as it would be humane not to execute anyone. But the law is the law, and there seem to be many more death row prisoners deserving of clemency (or just outright innocent). He may not to deserve to die, but I don't see how he really deserves to be a special case, either.
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Leslie Cheswyck



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

manlyboy wrote:
It's not about Tookie Williams, or the victims. It's about us.

Should we, as a civilised society, violently push a human being out of existence? What does it say about us?

It says that we lack respect for human life. Or at the very least, that we set limits to that respect.

I want justice for the victims, but I don't want it on those terms. Respect for human life should be unconditional.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If he really killed people, he is better off - from a spiritual point of view - being killed in this life rather than having that karma carry over to his next life - where he would probably be killed as a so-called "innocent" child. (Of course, cow-killers - and their many supporters - will next take birth as beef cattle and be slaughtered like their helpless victims were in this life - Ignorance of the Law is no excuse...)
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rteacher wrote:
Of course, cow-killers - and their many supporters - will next take birth as beef cattle and be slaughtered like their helpless victims were in this life


Moo.

Let's go to McDonald's.
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