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R. S. Refugee

Joined: 29 Sep 2004 Location: Shangra La, ROK
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:10 am Post subject: Good News, Americans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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'Twilight of the hegemony: From superpower to tinhorn dictatorship?'
Paul Craig Roberts, CounterPunch
America is headed for a soft dictatorship by the end of Bush's second term. Whether any American has civil rights will be decided by the discretionary power of federal officials. The public in general will tolerate the soft dictatorship as its discretionary powers will mainly be felt by those few who challenge it.
The congressional elections this coming November is the last chance for for Americans to reaffirm the separation of powers that is the basis of their civil liberties. Unless the voters correct their mistake of putting both the executive and legislative branches in the hands of the same party and deliver the House or the Senate to the Democrats, there is nothing on the domestic scene to stand in the way of more power, and less accountability, being accumulated in the executive.
The Democrats have been a totally ineffective opposition and might not inspire any voter response other than apathy. Rather than vote for a cowardly party that is afraid to defend the Constitution, voters might simply not vote at all.
In this unfortunate event, the only check on the Bush regime is its own hubris.
Bush's ill-fated invasion of Iraq has set in motion forces beyond his control. On February 23 the Asia Times reported that America's Pakistani puppet, Musharraf, is "losing his grip." Some Pakistani provinces are already beyond Musharraf's control, and the remainder are rioting against "Busharraf" as Musharraf is now known. The infantile American press misrepresents the riots as responses to the Danish cartoons of the Prophet Muhammed, but in fact the target of the riots is the American puppet.
By invading Afghanistan and Iraq and by threatening Syria and Iran, Bush has taught Muslims everywhere that they owe their humiliation to the Western controlled secular governments that suppress their aspirations. They are realizing that their power resides in Islam and that this power is suppressed by secular governments. Busharraf is probably dead meat, and when he goes so does the US military adventure in Afghanistan.
When Bush attacks Iran, the US army will be caught between the Iraqi Shia and the Iranian Shia and will be decimated in fourth generation conflict, so aptly described in CounterPunch a few days ago by William S. Lind. If a few thousand Sunni insurgents can tie down 10 US divisions, imagine the fate of US forces trapped in a Shia crescent.
The collapsing power of the US hegemon is everywhere evident. It is evident in the inability to successfully occupy Iraq or even Baghdad. It is evident in the growing military cooperation between North and South Korea, and it is evident it the revolt in the Indian government against Prime Minister Singh's nuclear agreement with the US. Indians say this agreement subjects India to US hegemony and represents America's attempt to block India's pioneering research on thorium as a nuclear fuel. Opposition parties have told Singh that if he signs the agreement, they will bring down his government.
The entire world now recognizes that America has lost its economic power and is dependent on the rest of the world to finance its budget and trade deficits. The US no longer holds the cards. American real incomes are falling, except for the rich. Jobs for university graduates are scarce, and advanced technology products must be imported from China. The US is a rapidly declining power and may soon end up as nothing but a tinhorn dictatorship.
Paul Craig Roberts has held a number of academic appointments and has contributed to numerous scholarly publications. He served as Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration. His graduate economics education was at the University of Virginia, the University of California at Berkeley, and Oxford University. He is coauthor of The Tyranny of Good Intentions. He can be reached at: [email protected]. |
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Bo Peabody
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:51 am Post subject: |
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sundubuman
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Location: seoul
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:09 am Post subject: |
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what a load o' crap-
America is booming.
The economy is set to grow 4.5% in the 1st quarter, WAY ahead of similar advanced economies. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Location: I walk along the avenue
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:20 am Post subject: |
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It is evident in the growing military cooperation between North and South Korea
Can someone elaborate on this for me? |
The guy's seen one or two headlines about the Sunshine Policy and thinks that's the be-all-and-end-all of North-South relations. |
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gypsyfish
Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:11 am Post subject: Re: Good News, Americans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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R. S. Refugee wrote: |
'Twilight of the hegemony: From superpower to tinhorn dictatorship?'
Paul Craig Roberts, CounterPunch (...) When Bush attacks Iran, the US army will be caught between the Iraqi Shia and the Iranian Shia and will be decimated in fourth generation conflict, so aptly described in CounterPunch a few days ago by William S. Lind. (...) [/i] |
Seems to me I have heard this decimation stuff before. Oh, that's right before both Gulf Wars. |
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Wangja

Joined: 17 May 2004 Location: Seoul, Yongsan
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:36 am Post subject: |
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sundubuman wrote: |
what a load o' crap-
America is booming.
The economy is set to grow 4.5% in the 1st quarter, WAY ahead of similar advanced economies. |
Booming?
Growth is falling and now probably lower than inflation. Be careful. |
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EFLtrainer

Joined: 04 May 2005
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:39 am Post subject: |
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Frankly, I agree with much in the article. US power is definitely slipping and has been for decades. Our share of the total world economy has been halved since WWII. We are no able to dictate terms to any but the weakest nations, and then primarily by threat. We have, indeed, lost freedoms and will, indeed, lose more. The struggle between Islam and the US is almost certain to get much worse before it gets better. And the turmoil created by ecological disasters is going to strain governments on a global scale. |
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sundubuman
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Location: seoul
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:52 am Post subject: |
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Almost 200,000 jobs created; past months revised higher
WASHINGTON (Reuters) — Employers added 193,000 jobs in January and job growth in each of the five prior months was pushed up as part of a broader annual revision of the Labor Department's statistics collection, a government report Friday showed. Construction companies added 46,000 jobs in January.
The monthly report showed the January unemployment rate dropped to a 4��-year low of 4.7% from 4.9% in December. The last time the rate was lower was in July 2001 when it was at 4.6%.
Economists had forecast that 240,000 jobs would be created in January and that the unemployment rate would be unchanged.
meanwhile Europe struggles to add a tenth as many jobs. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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Well, it's clear why the guy is no longer Assistant Secretary of the Treasury. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:25 pm Post subject: Re: Good News, Americans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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R. S. Refugee wrote: |
[When Bush attacks Iran, the US army will be caught between the Iraqi Shia and the Iranian Shia and will be decimated in fourth generation conflict, so aptly described in CounterPunch a few days ago by William S. Lind. If a few thousand Sunni insurgents can tie down 10 US divisions, imagine the fate of US forces trapped in a Shia crescent.
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This is the silliest thing I have ever heard. First it is not just a few thousand insurgents but rather more. Secondly these insurgents own their existence solely to their ability to hide behind the civilian population. In a conventional war the U.S. army with its planes and missiles would destroy the "Shia crescent". A large number of Arab nations couldn't even destroy Israel despite repeated attempts. And the U.S. is FAR more powerful than Israel.
The guy is loony tunes. Wishful thinking masquerading as journalism. You should be embarassed to even post this. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee

Joined: 25 May 2003
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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Paul Craig Roberts = moonbat
CounterPunch = radicals who support the insurgents in Iraq. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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sundubuman wrote: |
what a load o' crap-
America is booming.
The economy is set to grow 4.5% in the 1st quarter, WAY ahead of similar advanced economies. |
Sure booming if you're borrowing against your future, running up huge debts. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee

Joined: 25 May 2003
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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mindmetoo wrote: |
sundubuman wrote: |
what a load o' crap-
America is booming.
The economy is set to grow 4.5% in the 1st quarter, WAY ahead of similar advanced economies. |
Sure booming if you're borrowing against your future, running up huge debts. |
The US is running up huge debts - but no worse than in the 80's. The US economy isn't doing truely great - but it is performing better than most of its of its competitors. Give me the America's economic future versus Europe's or Japan's anyday.
Whe you have a 13 trillion dollar economy - soon to be 14 trillion a huge debt is nothing more than a huge debt.
A burden yes, a disaster no.
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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mindmetoo wrote: |
sundubuman wrote: |
what a load o' crap-
America is booming.
The economy is set to grow 4.5% in the 1st quarter, WAY ahead of similar advanced economies. |
Sure booming if you're borrowing against your future, running up huge debts. |
If you subtract annual deficit from annual growth it's a rather different picture. What's funny is that it will probably be a Democratic administration that eventually tries to rectify this, and they will get blamed for the economic slow-down that will accompany tightening up the belt; they'll be in for one term, and then the yanks will get even more financial mismanagement from the GOP, a party about as financially un-conservative as there could be. Hopefully the long-term effects of America's deficit growth won't be too global. |
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EFLtrainer

Joined: 04 May 2005
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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mindmetoo wrote: |
sundubuman wrote: |
what a load o' crap-
America is booming.
The economy is set to grow 4.5% in the 1st quarter, WAY ahead of similar advanced economies. |
Sure booming if you're borrowing against your future, running up huge debts. |
It's what you might call a war bounce. Huge defense spending often boosts the economy in the short term. The problem is that the money is not going into R and D, infrastructure or anything that builds long-term economic power. It's being blown up in the deserts of Iraq and Afghanistan.
The future is being mortgaged for a private war. Insanity. |
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