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It's the exact same scenario.

Migrant workers who enter a country to find work. They can't speak the language, and are easily exploited due to their lack of education (no-name colleges do not count as education in today's economy) and employable skills.

They constantly complain of their abhorrent conditions, but they can not leave because, hey... it's money. And where else are they gonna find work?

Funny, how the rich exploit the poor in all corner's of the world. As long as there are people who are willing to take the abuse, there will be people willing to dish it out. At least the English teachers get paid a decent salary.

[Derrek]

The difference is that some of us can find jobs elsewhere. I work in Korea because I enjoy Korea (for the most part).

We also get paid a lot more for a lot less work, too. I'm not a Mexican migrant worker, but there are several in my home town. I think a hard-working individual like that would take offense to what you wrote -- if they understood how easy we have it by comparison.

But yes, we are often mistreated. My last boss was a pretty good guy. The flake that signed a contract with me, then backed out as I am returning to Korea is not.

[Tiger Beer]

I think I work in Korea is significantly easier than a Mexican worker's earned money..

Plus its also true that all of here are college graduates.. presumably.. and a good chunk of us could easily be just about anywhere we want to be in the world if we so desired..

Plus, my paychecks were much larger in the USA.. but of course so was my rent, car $, tipping, and everything else.. all in all.. in evened out.. but I just like being here more at this particular time for myself..

[Real Reality]

Foreign professors tend to be treated as hired hands, without academic standing, and lacking the possibility of career advancement or tenure.They must submit to yearly contracts (compensated at a rate only 60 percent of their Korean peers) while walled off from the permanent Korean faculty who benefit from travel, research funding, sabbaticals, etc. Moreover, when hundreds of Korean scholars enjoy such perks at American and other foreign universities, something is obviously amiss.
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http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200206/14/200206142349223599900090109011.html

Quote from Kimchiking:
In my opinion the best teacher at my university, who has an M.ed (TESOL) is being asked to leave because he has been working at my university too long. This is his last contract (5 years) - not only is he probably the best teacher I have ever seen he is qualified and told he can't stay.
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?p=58182&highlight=#58182

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insightful too! amused indeed's on fire today!

[jg]

Finally, a flicker of hope in this cursed darkness... your bravery in calling attention to our plight gave me the courage to come forward! If I can save just one from following my wretched path... my name is - no! I dare not! Call me BemusedIndeed, for this, friend, is my tale...

I came here to Terra Esperanza to work horribly long hours and send remittances to my family. I traveled under cover of darkness to these rocky shores, fearful all the while that I might be discovered, imprisoned and deported... I only hope to pay off the smugglers before they harm my beloved... we gather at dawn to do their most menial labor, and how they scorn us!

I have only a little schooling; I was ushered into the workforce at an early age, but with my earnings I hope to someday bring my wife here and begin anew. Bereft of language skills and a brand-name diploma, I can only hope that my children will be born here so that they may prosper as citizens of this great land...


Uhhh.... NO! Are you really in California, have you any idea about the reality of the world's poorest migrants? It doesn't seem so... I suspect you are actually in orbit around Uranus. You are WAY out in left-field with that comparison. The comparison you make is ridiculous, you are ridiculous, and any self-indulgent parallels anyone draws between themselves and a typical "poor" economic migrant are laughable.

Why not just come up with a list of "yo momma" jokes and pm it to all the users of this board? That might be more effective, as there is no real defense for a good "yo momma" joke... did your ladyfriend run off to be a groupie for ESL'ers in Itaewon? I can hear you gritting your teeth from here...

[weatherman]

It is really easy to jump on these threads and say, "Yah, you're right man, we get treated like dirt in Korea". While one can go down this road, as I myself have done many a time, I still don't forget that if I was to head back to Boston, I would have to earn about $45,000 a year before taxes to reproduce the life style I have become way to used to in Korea. And how the hell will I make that kind of money working part hours too?

[Tiger Beer]

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