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Why teach when you can make more doing something else?
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sakamuras



Joined: 21 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 1:26 pm    Post subject: Why teach when you can make more doing something else? Reply with quote

Seems like teaching ESL is one of the lowest paying jobs in korea. Can I ask why many choose to limit their options in this field if you're in it purely for the money?
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Mody Ba



Joined: 22 May 2003

PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 3:47 pm    Post subject: Sooooo...What Else Do You Suggest? Reply with quote

By its very nature,there are more job opportunities in Korea for foreigners inthe TESOL field than anything else.True,the money is not terrific,but what options do you suggest.if someone is a doctor,lawyer or other professional,chances are they will stay in their home country.Why in God's name should they come to Korea to practice their profession?
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kimcheeking
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The money only appears to be low. You need to take into account that most teachers get free housing. Also the tax rate here is very low compared to most peoples home countries.

I get 16 weeks of paid vacation a year, how much would I get in Canada? I'd be lucky to get 3. I'd also be taxed to death.
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kylehawkins2000



Joined: 08 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is relatively easy to get an E2 visa which entitles you to teach English. As for other positions, it is not so easy. Perhaps they'd love to hire some doctors, lawyers, computer programmers, etc. from western countries......but most of them would not want to come because they can make alot of money in their home country.

Perhaps you should look at what kind of money can be made by an uncertified, unqualified ESL instructor in Canada, and compare that to what is being paid in Korea. Most of the folks I've run into here don't actually have great job prospect back home.....

Some people actually enjoy teaching as well!
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Hagwon Muppet



Joined: 18 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well for a start its not always easy to get another job - especially if you don't speak Korean.

Plus, lots of people aren't in it for the money. I came here for a break from the 'good job' daily grind.

Oh and there are much lower paid jobs in Korea - like most of the ones Koreans do.
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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like teaching.
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Mashimaro



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: location, location

PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everyone here knows (or should know) how nationalistic Koreans are. They are not going to hand out great, high paying jobs to 'aliens' like us. Besides, we don't know about kibun & face & jeong & all that crap Shocked so for the meantime we are only good enough to babysit their kids! Hey I'm hungover & grumpy, but I stand by my point about the extreme nationalism.
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GirlFromMars



Joined: 15 May 2003
Location: Corea do Sul

PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like teaching too.

And after struggling for a year on the low wages here in Portugal, the deal in Korea sounds like magic.
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sakamuras



Joined: 21 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2003 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

perhaps you might want to reread my initial post...

this question was for those who are in the teaching business purely for the money...nothing else (including the love of teaching).

Rike wrote:
To the orignal poster:

Why do something else when you can be happier teaching?


Seriously, I think your question is a little strange. By those standards, you might replace "teach" with any other job and ask the same question.

Why uphold the law when you could make more doing something else?
Why help sick people when you could make more doing something else?
Why direct movies when you could make more doing something else?

....and it still sounds strange.
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2003 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to grease suckas for the Korean mob, but getting the blood out of my suits was a pain in the ondongi. So now I am working on primary colours. What is taupe again?
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2003 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="sakamuras"]perhaps you might want to reread my initial post...

this question was for those who are in the teaching business purely for the money...nothing else (including the love of teaching).

Rike wrote:
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Well those people had no other job prospects. Seriously if anyone is in this for the money, they are quite likely unemployable anywhere back home.
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jurassic5



Joined: 02 Apr 2003
Location: PA

PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2003 10:54 am    Post subject: Re: Why teach when you can make more doing something else? Reply with quote

sakamuras wrote:
Seems like teaching ESL is one of the lowest paying jobs in korea.



umm...i dunno if it's that low when compared to the people that work at bars and restarants and pulling in 1,500 won a hour. Confused

20k a year for teaching your native language 30 hours a week isn't that bad

...it beats dealing with dumbass customers all day long.
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Morning Calm



Joined: 28 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2003 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many of the people who I've met, including myself, came to travel for a long duration of time while paying for it with work. Many others, enjoy the mixture of traveling and teaching English. It's a lifestyle that we choose. If I was in it for the money I sure wouldn't be here, rather on wall street pushing stock, insurance, or real estate on people that really can't afford it nor understand it.

Any of you guys dive? Whenever I get a chance I take off to the Phil or Thai and get a few dives in. I remember going one time, I asked the dive master (who was also an instructor) if they made alot of cash.

She flat out told me, "It's a life style you choose because you love it."
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LiquidSunshine



Joined: 31 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i seem to make more money here than i would teaching back in canada. it is true that i'm making less then i was in sales but, then again, i'm not working 80 hours a week. taxes in canada are hell. making 100 gross is truly not like making a 100 in the U.S. in canada you get a big fat chunk of that taken away. with a bit of help from some friends and a good housing set-up you can have a good life in korea....if you can deal with the fact that you're living in a homogenious society. oh, and you're the oil that sticks out like a sore thumb. Twisted Evil
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gmat



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2003 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not what you make, it's what you save. That is the key. Teachers can save nicely in Korea.
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