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[Tiberious aka Sparkles]

[Smee]

Well, I just fired something off to the KT. We'll see if it gets in there. If it does, it'd be the first time it got mentioned in the English-language press. Sad to see the story die so quickly.

[Pyongshin Sangja]

Hm.

[stevieg4ever]

Ive alerted the Jewish press in the UK. I'm sure they will have something to say.

[Pyongshin Sangja]

Has anyone seen it on TV lately?

[Smee]

I saw it a few times each on Thursday and Friday. Haven't been watching OnStyle since.

[idonojacs]

Keep it up, Smee!

[Been There, Taught That]

What is the real history of the Korean orientation to such things? How do Asian and Western morality theories clash here? What does it mean in the East to confront a historical event on a moral level...and on and on with many other questions too broad, historically varied and culture-specific to answer in this type of post by these types of posters.

All I have seen in this thread so far is moral indignancy based on historical episodes involving and impacting the Western (nationality-driven) standard of what is right. That, and a generalized attempt to drive the golden spike of our theories of decency into the tracks connecting the business worlds: an conscience-stricken attempt to teach some Western history to a conscienceless aspect of human endeavor.

I say first probe the intricacies of the morality, world outlook and survival/prosperity tactics of thev various world cultures--even get a Master's if you have to go that far. Then come back and see whether you understand how best to morally impose upon a people, any people, whom you know through, at best, the seeing of their most recent 20 years of history.

If all else fails to move you to understand, use the last resort and sit down with a Korean who does know his/her own people intimately and find out why you can't just rage with your central nervous system at their psychological endeavours like pounding on steel with a paper hammer.

[Pyongshin Sangja]

Holy relativism, Batman!

[endo]

[sistersarah]

I just saw it on OnStyle.

[Pyongshin Sangja]

Thanks, Sarah. I've alerted the Jewish Defense League and the Jewish Anti-Defamation League. We'll see.

[Adventurer]

Some people admired the German military during World War II for their discipline and admired how the Germans built their country up very quickly, it is not sympathy for what some in the German army did to exterminate both Jews and gentiles at the various camps, but, obviously, this is ignorance of what Germany did in detail. Many people are ignorant in this world of the tragedies happening in the world. How many Americans knew what was happening in East Timor?

The Jews and gentiles who died in Europe were European; not Asian. Koreans would be more likely aware of the massacres that happened to the Chinese at the hands of the Japanese. The Korean people did not ask for the commercial. The advertising company did. Koreans admire the Germans for their discipline, cars, and the like. The company should not have used a Hitler image. Germany's prowess was admired to some extent just as Alexander the Great was, but Germany lost and so many more died. Many in Korea don't know much about that. Korea needs to stop using themes that insult the dead of World War II and the death of the Jews. The Korean people were very poor until recently. They don't have a long of history of the masses being educated like in Europe.
We can't measure the society by the same exact standards, perhaps.
It doesn't mean changes shouldn't occur. They must.

[Smee]

It's good to alert these global anti-defamation groups and create news stories like the ones we had a couple of weeks ago. Sad, though, but those protests won't have any teeth since the stories aren't reported in Korea and the companies claim they never receve these (English-language) protests. Coreana claimed it never received the SWC letter of protest. I brought this all up at my teachers' workshop last week and none of my coworkers heard of the media outrage, even though it was covered by nearly every Western source.

The Korea Times hasn't printed my letter to the editor on it yet, not sure if they ever will. The English-language media here still hasn't reported on it. Somebody with Korean skills needs to put something together for OhMyNews or something. English-language protests in English-language countries are fine, and important, but won't accomplish anything here. Clearly, after seeing Coreana's response to the first protest----change a single word, leave in the offending imagery---they're spitting in the face of a laughable "foreign" protest.

Also worth pointing out that this sholdn't be a case of foreigners trying to impose their sensitivities onto Koreans. At least in the US we're political correctness gone wild, and you can't say or do anything without three special interest groups whining about something or other. These ads aren't in bad taste because people are offended: people are offended because these ads are in bad taste. It should go without saying that Nazis don't belong in commercials . . . but this is Korea, the land where nothing goes without saying.

[Yu_Bum_suk]

What about the Nazis? Won't they find Mongoloids using their imagery in this manner inappropriate?