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[TheUrbanMyth]

[atwood]

[Steelrails]

[Threequalseven]

I've had some success using hangul to teach the pronunciation of words (or at least the American pronunciation). For example, many of my students would say "boar" instead of "ball". I think this is in part because most English words that are spelled in hangul use the British English pronunciation (such as "bah" for "bar"). So if the students see "볼", they think "boar". I spelled it for a class once as "발르", changing the "oh" vowel sound to an "aw" sound, then adding another "ㄹ" to mimic a proper L sound, and it worked quite alright once I explained that it's pronounced "bawl" and not "bawl-uh".

Usually, though, I avoid using this method, especially for the F, V, Z, th, dz, zh, the soft I, and other sounds.

[Ruthdes]

[Threequalseven]

Also, I don't know if these were mentioned yet:

Pencil = "Pen Sir"
Eraser = "E Lay Sir"
Ruler = "Rurur"
Wig = "Weeeg"
Lynn = "Lean"
Hot Dog = "Hot Dough Guh"
Cheese = "Chee Juh"
Sausage = "Sausagey"
Water Park = "Wha Da Puck" *(almost punished a kid for that one )

Book, Cook, Look = Oo sound is like blue.
There are probably a ton of examples of these in-between vowels in English.

[le-paul]

or;

iraq ( with an eye instead of an ear)

iran ( with and eye instead of an ear)

herb ( with no h so it sounds french and then give it the prep. an)

espresso (with an ex)

candidate (without the d)

Ku lux klan ( ku as clue)

federal (so it sounds like fedral)

van goch (urrggh...)

cant (so it sounds like can)

etc.

oh wait, thats not the Koreans, wrong thread...

[Threequalseven]

News flash: Dialects exist.

(Maps showing linguistic divides just within the United States)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2336660/Yall-you-guys-Dialect-maps-showcase-Americas-linguistic-divides.html

[ryunatkorea]

First of all, I would like to apologize to all for having a big hand in getting this thread way out of control.

As once student, teacher, professional and practitioner of the English language, this thread including the members is reasonable and fine to me. Thus I became incredibly defensive of what JediJenna debut posted about/against us.

He mentioned that he didn't want to be a "douchebag" about his criticism, but states every piece of his insulting opinions with his negative assumptions of the members present. Yet, he gets so upset for mutual scrutiny and assumptions of him and resorts to immaturity much like Reddit or 4chan posts. Seriously, he quoted a meme, "Y U MAD BRO?" I don't need someone to tell me to relax after having insulting me through a condescending apology.

He says that I have misunderstood his words and that I missed the point. Regardless of what point he wanted to make, he judged our actions to be ignorant and snobbish when clearly and reasonably, that was not the intent by any one of us. All I can see from his action is that he wants to feel better by standing on his ill-conceived moral high grounds by judging us.

The point I wanted to make was the Koreans' pronunciation is what it is and it should be taken for what it is worth as long as the communication get completed. Humor or not, keep an open mind and laugh it off. It never bothered me enough to change it. If an accented Korean like me feels that I can laugh about it, who is he to tell me that I should be insulted by whom.

Final note: My ESL teachers, Mrs. Sutton, Mrs. Spelling, and Mrs. Lewis were amazing teachers. I think they did an excellent job teaching this once 7-year-old the ABCs.

[diver]

http://www.slideshare.net/englishonecfl/the-lingua-franca-core-a-new-model-for-pronunciation-instruction

Thoughts?

[ryunatkorea]

It's a pretty good standard for children and low level students. Much better tweak to the Yale system of romanization.

I've noticed in the IT and business industries, American English is generally used, however in the science and engineering industries, there are a greater mix of English, French, German, Italian and Latin origin terms that tend to really confuse Koreans and native English speakers alike.

I work in the pharmaceutical industry where professionals communicate through uncommon technical terms where English derived words aren't always used, but pronounced that way, because people generally assume it is English.

For example:

"Na" or "Sodium"
Koreans say "na-teu-ryum." I think they are using some Latin or French/German word.

"Iron"
Koreans say "a-i-rong" but since the movie "Iron Man," people are starting to pronounce "a-yeon." For some reason, it was marketed with this pronunciation. "a-yeon" is actually Korean word for another mineral.

"Colchicine"
Both Korea and Japan pronounce this as "kol-ki-shin." In the States, it is commonly known as "kol-che-ssin." I think I've heard like the Koreans in Europe, but I could be wrong.

"Uranus"
Koreans and Japanese pronounce this with a "Oo-ran-us." In the states, st is common to hear "Your-anus" or "You-ren-nus." Astronomy isn't my field, but after Googling, the Latin/Greek pronounciation is with a "Oo." Who is truly correct?

[Privateer]

[Steelrails]

Just a thought, but if people mispronouncing things causes emotional and physical discomfort, and for you to lose your patience and start to tease them, teaching English to non-native speakers is probably not the career for you.

[Captain Corea]

But SR, is that really how any English speaker would pronounce those places/names? I think saying "that's wrong!", would be too much. But to say that "In English, Moscow is used", is the obligation of a NET.

[cabeza]