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Koreadays
Joined: 20 May 2008
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqXi8WmQ_WM
Personal favorite.  |
tell me that's not you... hahahhaa |
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ESL Milk "Everyday
Joined: 12 Sep 2007
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erasmus
Joined: 11 Sep 2010
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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I turn this up really loud when the neighbors are noisy (it also happens to be one of the very, very few rap songs I like):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGIA1hgaqis |
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Koreadays
Joined: 20 May 2008
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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Eric B and Rakim
Wu-Tang Clan
Mos Def
A Tribe Called Quest |
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PatrickBateman
Joined: 08 Jun 2009 Location: American Gardens Building, West 81st Street
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rezdog69
Joined: 22 Dec 2009
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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Flow (control), expressiveness (phrasing), creativity... and a distinctively pleasing voice--can we all agree that these are the universal criteria for any vocal artist regardless of genre? The only differences among genres is the relative emphasis placed on certain emotional themes (reductive examples: country music: heartache; gospel: elation; metal: power).
I mean, there's a way to move this discussion beyond merely listing personal favorites by discussing the generally-agreed-upon hallmarks of rap excellence. Sure individual preferences may vary but each genre makes relatively clear its own terms for evaluation.
I liked what someone said earlier about the progression from the emphasis of end rhyme to alliteration and internal rhyme because now we have some concrete criteria with which to evaluate between Soulja Boy, Ice T and, say, Eminem.
However, personally, I don't think the question of New School vs. Old School is really so relevant. Maybe production values have increased and maybe musically hip-hop has become more diversified but sick flow is still sick flow, no?
For example, has anyone had better flow than Rakim?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95gP3m-uBHA
Check out his silky smooth delivery, the increased verbal density and implicit threat of his rising cadence. Ahem... you can't touch this.
Also, a guy who rarely gets mentioned but whom Eminem was hugely influenced by is Big Daddy Kane. You will NEVER see anyone with sicker polysyllabic flow than BDK. Listen to the first verse of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5gj3lMoq0M&feature=related
These guys are pretty good, too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB1NK5kvn8Y
Finally, I don't know why but I love this song and the video will warm the cockles of your hating hearts...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im2jn3pcGW4 |
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Koreadays
Joined: 20 May 2008
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:13 am Post subject: |
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I think we need to distinguish between Gangsta rap and Hip hop..
because there is a difference.
EAZY E-- THE ORIGINAL GANGSTA. this was a guy who really didn't give a fluck. hardcore and took no prisoners.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Nhcv6Ho3ic&feature=related |
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brickabrack
Joined: 17 May 2010
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Tbizz
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