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Kwangjuchicken



Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

some waygug-in wrote:
Menino80 wrote:
Kwangjuchicken wrote:
I'd also like to add if you don't know to talk slow, use easy or level-appropriate words, and pronounce everything you say clearly before entering ESL--you should have stayed out and done something else.

This is simply not true. Leveling speech can be learned. quite quickly at that.



Well, yes and no. I know that some say that, but I've found for myself that I need to have things slowed down and simplified.

A good example of what I mean is the Sogang website for learning Korean.
It's way too fast and covers way too much material for beginning learners.
http://korean.sogang.ac.kr/

I struggled with it for years trying to pick stuff up, but just ended up frustrated and not learning much.

What really helped me learn was the radio Korea site which has those goofy sounding, droid-like but slow dialogues.

http://rki.kbs.co.kr/learn_korean/lessons/e_index.htm

And I really wish I had known about these early on:

http://www.learnkickasskorean.com/old-series-lsk-lesson-1-part-1/

Now I can use the sogang web site, after much practice, but it's still fast.

Trying to learn full speed, complex sentences

may work for some learners, but it certainly didn't help me.

I had to first learn slow, easy sentences first, and gradually work on larger more complex things.

I really think it depends on the level of the student, their age, and what type of learner they are.

I had a similar experience learning Spanish and French, I simply could not learn things at full speed. It wasn't until I discovered Pimsleur language programs that I found learning a lot easier. Sorry if this seems like a plug for them, I hated their Korean program. (found it next to useless)


The quote in red was made by Kennyftw NOT ME
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, the quote function on this forum is truly baffling.

I was trying to respond to Menino80, not you.

Sorry for the confusion.
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itiswhatitis



Joined: 08 Aug 2011

PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah yes....myths about teaching English...

I will tell you the biggest myth:

that you will actually be treated like a professional when you teach English abroad. There was a time when I would have said this cynically but not now, it simply is what it is. Personally, I took myself too seriously when I first came to Korea and I treated it like it was a career, teaching english (unless you are actually a teacher or have an MA in TESOL...etc) is like a fast food job which is only for those with degrees....

Having said that, I am seriously glad that I came to Korea
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Menino80



Joined: 10 Jun 2007
Location: Hodor?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kwangjuchicken wrote:
Menino80 wrote:
Kwangjuchicken wrote:
I'd also like to add if you don't know to talk slow, use easy or level-appropriate words, and pronounce everything you say clearly before entering ESL--you should have stayed out and done something else.


This is simply not true. Leveling speech can be learned. quite quickly at that.


What you quoted was not from any of my posts. Shocked


sorry, there must have been a bracket missing somewhere
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