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Threequalseven
Joined: 08 May 2012
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| I think you two should argue about it. |
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robbie_davies
Joined: 16 Jun 2013
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| Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:47 am Post subject: |
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| Never said it wasn't. I simply said that people who act high and mighty over it, but go and laugh behind people's backs have no moral leg to stand on. |
It is a bit like 'if a tree falls in the forest and no-one is around to hear it, does it make a sound' So we can change this around a bit and say 'if someone is not around to hear an insult, will it bother them?' And the answer is no. I bet all those friends you don't have are slagging you off behind your back right now.
'Who has invited steelrails to the party - Mr Social Skills'
Everyone: 'Not me'
'He is such a bore, always wants to be right all the time'
'I hate it when he goes, 'hey dude, it is drunk o'clock'
'He is such a bore..'
'Why don't we tell him that none of us have got renewed, he might leave us alone then' etc etc.
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| And in defense of to your facers, they have honesty going for them. They lack tact, but honesty IS a virtue. |
Honesty is sometimes a virtue, it has its place. Ask Henry Kissinger.
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| At least he knows he can't turn his back on them. Who knows? If they kept it secret they might just frag him one night or whatever. Now he knows he can't trust them. |
Oh well, that's great, meanwhile, his self esteem and confidence gets smashed to pieces in the meantime, making him less effective - well done Colonel Steelrails.
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| If guns and killing are involved, trustworthiness and loyalty are good things to know. Not someone's ability to politely keep their thoughts to themselves. |
Teamwork, harmony and self confidence are also important in a section or platoon of soldiers - if there is a bad apple(s) who is crushing morale through being a bully, then that is the cancer that needs to be cut out, not
ignored or quitely encouraged. You would know all this if you served a day.
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| Are you seriously saying the guy at Family Mart likely takes an active interest in politics? I'm not saying he doesn't, but that isn't exactly the demographic for that. Most young Koreans are rather ignorant, like all young people, of politics and issues like that. |
Could do, why not? You are good at painting stereotypes yourself aren't when it suits your agenda. You can paint great big generalisations about Koreans but woe betide anyone else!
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| Relax, he laughed at you, likely because you were foreign, maybe for some other reason, but likely not as part of his agenda which is in his manifesto. |
I am not the OP who got laughed at. You know what, why do I never see you posting on the 'Job Discussion Forum' helping a newbie for once? Never see Steelrails helping out a newbie with all his experience. Shows you for what you are.
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| Care to wager? We could always use more beer money. |
I would care to wager, your facebook profile won't do it though, there are millions of blag profiles with hundreds of contacts, I bet every one of your 'friends' roll their eyes when steelrails is invited out to party.
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| And what, laughing behind their back saves their face? |
Yes, basically.
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| At least to their face someone can come up with a witty retort like "The Jerkstore called, they're running out of you." Or "I had sex with your wife. |
Most times they don't, not everyone is as deft a verbal hero as you steelrails - lots of people suffer in silence, take a look at any study of bullying in the workplace.
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| So you don't believe in free speech, freedom of expression, and the free exchange of ideas? Only those ideas you don't find repulsive? |
Free speech and freedom of expression is not the freedom to insult and abuse due to bigotry and hate - no.
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| If you claim that the US, the most powerful nation on the planet, the primary exporter of culture and new technology, and the one that tells your country what to do, is not "developed", then I don't know what is. |
I was thinking just that when New Orelans was flooded or when parts of your country fight against science in schools or when Michael Moore compares infant mortality in certain American cities to African countries - and then you bring in pop culture references just to kill my argument  why do you make me LOLZ everytime you post?
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| Have fun when 90% of good standup comedy becomes illegal in England. |
Great thing is though that 90% of racist stand up in the UK has disappeared with the mullet hair cut.
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| In other words, you think its okay to dish it out, but you can't take it. |
You can bring up anything near comparable to what CRAP the Koreans believe in then I will give you a glittery star.
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| Yes, if you laugh behind people's backs and get angry at people who laugh in someone's face you are a hypocrite. |
Again Steelrails...
"If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:04 am Post subject: |
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| I would care to wager, your facebook profile won't do it though, there are millions of blag profiles with hundreds of contacts, I bet every one of your 'friends' roll their eyes when steelrails is invited out to party. |
Name your terms. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:06 am Post subject: |
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| It is a bit like 'if a tree falls in the forest and no-one is around to hear it, does it make a sound' |
So if you steal from someone and no one notices, its not a crime? Its not an immoral act? |
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robbie_davies
Joined: 16 Jun 2013
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| Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:17 am Post subject: |
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| I would care to wager, your facebook profile won't do it though, there are millions of blag profiles with hundreds of contacts, I bet every one of your 'friends' roll their eyes when steelrails is invited out to party. |
Name your terms. |
What - to prove you have friends? Are you going to bring them around my house? Anyway, what are you doing on here at this time, isn't it 'drunk O'clock?' and you are being life and soul of the party? |
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robbie_davies
Joined: 16 Jun 2013
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| Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:19 am Post subject: |
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| It is a bit like 'if a tree falls in the forest and no-one is around to hear it, does it make a sound' |
So if you steal from someone and no one notices, its not a crime? Its not an immoral act? |
It is, but if they don't notice and don't care - it isn't hurting them is it?
If someone steals a crappy old bike off me and someone says - 'hey, Dave stole that crappy old bike from you' and I say 'It is a crappy old bike, I don't care'. Am I being hurt?
So, if someone comes up to me and tells me 'Hey, Dave calls you baldy behind your back' I would laugh. But if Dave started taking this piss to my face and with other people around - it would annoy me greatly.
If someone slags off someone behind their back - it isn't great behaviour, but it is far better slagging them off to their face, it is only a complete and utter social retard who wouldn't get the concept. |
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NohopeSeriously
Joined: 17 Jan 2011
Location: The Christian Right-Wing Educational Republic of Korea
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| Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:02 am Post subject: |
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| Here's a solution in a very generalizing point of consideration. Just accept that Koreans are rude or inhumane people who cannot reform themselves and move on. Here's the key point: move on. You don't have to love Koreans. Koreans hate each other anyways. They're hopeless. They don't want to love people. They lost their humanity for money and fame. They're too prideful to handle the reality. And never forget to consider them as clowns. So, there's no reason to hate them if you understand what I said. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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| It is, but if they don't notice and don't care - it isn't hurting them is it? |
The issue isn't them getting hurt or not. The issue is YOUR actions of you are stealing behind someone's back or mocking them.
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| If someone slags off someone behind their back - it isn't great behaviour, but it is far better slagging them off to their face, it is only a complete and utter social retard who wouldn't get the concept. |
Yeah, social retards must have invented the phrase "If you've got something to say, say it to my face." |
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robbie_davies
Joined: 16 Jun 2013
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| Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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The issue isn't them getting hurt or not. The issue is YOUR actions of you are stealing behind someone's back or mocking them. |
No-one is saying that mocking someone behind their back is great behaviour, but your stance that mocking them to their face is preferable is absolute nonsense and is liable to cause more harm.
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| Yeah, social retards must have invented the phrase "If you've got something to say, say it to my face. |
Which is completely different.
If the person getting slagged off finds out, they are within their rights to call out the person responsible.
But to compare some idiot being rude and insulting to someones face as better behaviour is just nonsense and social retardation at its finest. |
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catman
Joined: 18 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Reminds me of the apologists defence when it comes to domestic violence in Korea. "There is just as much violence back home, it just happens behind closed doors." |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 5:00 am Post subject: |
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| Reminds me of the apologists defence when it comes to domestic violence in Korea. "There is just as much violence back home, it just happens behind closed doors." |
Actually most domestic violence tends to occur behind closed doors because the scum who perpetrate it on their spouse or kids prefer to hide it. Hence the under reporting and difficulty in getting a true assessment of the extent of this disgusting behavior. |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 8:05 am Post subject: |
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| Reminds me of the apologists defence when it comes to domestic violence in Korea. "There is just as much violence back home, it just happens behind closed doors." |
Actually most domestic violence tends to occur behind closed doors because the scum who perpetrate it on their spouse or kids prefer to hide it. Hence the under reporting and difficulty in getting a true assessment of the extent of this disgusting behavior. |
Its not that hard to get a clearer picture if you simply conduct consistent research.
And that is what the government has begun to do.
The results are in. And they confirm what most foreigners have long suspected.
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Police arrested 8,762 criminals for domestic violence across the nation in 2012, up from 6,848 in 2011, according to government tallies.
Government data showed 15.3 percent of married women in South Korea were victims of domestic abuse in 2010, which is more than five times higher than 3 percent both for Britain (2007 figure) and Japan (2004 figure). (Yonhap News)http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20130708000586 |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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| What - to prove you have friends? Laughing Are you going to bring them around my house? Anyway, what are you doing on here at this time, isn't it 'drunk O'clock?' and you are being life and soul of the party? |
Dude I don't have to prove shit to you. But I would like to see the look on your face when you realize you know nothing about me and don't have the skillz in identifying people's social lives that you think you do.
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Which is completely different.
If the person getting slagged off finds out, they are within their rights to call out the person responsible.
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At which point the laughing and talking behind someone's back becomes just as bad or even worse than saying it to their face. You have the added element of dishonesty and betrayal.
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| But to compare some idiot being rude and insulting to someones face as better behaviour is just nonsense and social retardation at its finest. |
No, its based on life experience. People who regularly engage in laughing behind people's back is that they are worse to deal with than people who don't do that at all OR even those who will laugh in someone's face.
That and a lot of people back home I knew took far more exception to talking behind someone's back as it was a sign of disloyalty and cowardice. |
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andrewchon
Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2013 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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White-whites really do take it badly when they lose to an Asian, don't they?  |
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Seoulman69
Joined: 14 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:47 am Post subject: |
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| White-whites really do take it badly when they lose to an Asian, don't they? |
We sure do.
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| Government data showed 15.3 percent of married women in South Korea were victims of domestic abuse in 2010, which is more than five times higher than 3 percent both for Britain (2007 figure) and Japan (2004 figure). (Yonhap News)http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20130708000586 |
All us "white-whites" are taking this particularly hard. It seems that you "Korean-koreans", and probably you "Korean-Americans", are gold medalists when it comes to smacking your women around. |
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