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Why Does Canada Suck?
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silkhighway



Joined: 24 Oct 2010
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
Shimokitazawa wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
Other than the crap winters, it's actually a pretty decent place to live, IMO.


Calgary, like all other North American cities, is a car-centric city. The cities and suburbs in North America were built around the idea of the car.

If you don't have a car, then life can really suck in 99% of North America.

That's why I love cities like Seoul. But most Americans, or Canadians, can't recognize how backwards they are in terms of public transportation.

I know I'm getting off topic and should be beating up on Canada, but as a continent, North America is so backwards in terms of public transport. It's terrible.


I prefer the car-centric feel to those cities. I'm not a huge fan of taking public transportation. And while I think Seoul's is great, I'd much rather drive in the burbs.




It's also a huge generalization. It makes a drastic difference not only what part of the country you live in, but also what neighborhoods. I lived in an established (old) neighborhood in a sprawling city, but yet I hardly ever use my car when driving around because I don't need to. In fact, I went 5 years without it.

Also Calgary is car-centric, but doesn't it have a really good network of multi-use trails that cross the city?

Personally I'm a huge supporter of public and active transportation. I think Seoul ,and Korea as a whole, are world-leaders in public transit and they should be proud of that. We're seeing a slow shift towards that in North America, but it in the low-density, relatively low-populated cities (compared to Asia), it's never going to look like Seoul's network. There's still some cool things happening. Look at Portland for example.

Also, as great as Seoul's subway system is, commute times are still not short. It still takes ~ 45 minutes to get anywhere, an hour by the time you include walking to the stations.
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Shimokitazawa



Joined: 14 Dec 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canada and the US are the only countries where people drive to access public transportation! Huge parking lots built around train and bus stations built in the middle of no where.

How bizarre is that?

Canada and the US are so backwards when it comes to public transportation that they should be ashamed.
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KimchiNinja



Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shimokitazawa wrote:
Canada and the US are so backwards when it comes to public transportation that they should be ashamed.


That's what my Korean friends say.

It really is an embarrassment, perhaps they should invest in their country instead of dancing around the world playing warrior. Idea
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Stain



Joined: 08 Jan 2014

PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KimchiNinja wrote:
Shimokitazawa wrote:
Canada and the US are so backwards when it comes to public transportation that they should be ashamed.


That's what my Korean friends say.

It really is an embarrassment, perhaps they should invest in their country instead of dancing around the world playing warrior. Idea


Agreed.
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young_clinton



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The US has mediocre public transportation in all of it's cities. More public transportation would mean weight loss for many fat Americans.

It's kind of funny, living in Saudi Arabia which has no public transportation to speak of, you see the people getting fatter and fatter. That doesn't apply to the Asian expats that do all the work, The Saudis don't work ever, they can't, there is no readiness for such an endeavor, it would be unthinkable, they drive cars to get wherever they need to go. Getting in and out of the car and walking a few hundred yards is their only exercise. You never see Saudis walking around anywhere. The girth keeps getting bigger and bigger.
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young_clinton



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shimokitazawa wrote:
Burger King now owns Tim Hortons and Coors bough out Molson Canadian brewery. Wasn't CN Rail also bought by an American company?


Coors is not particularly a bad beer.
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No_hite_pls



Joined: 05 Mar 2007
Location: Don't hate me because I'm right

PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stain wrote:
KimchiNinja wrote:
Shimokitazawa wrote:
Canada and the US are so backwards when it comes to public transportation that they should be ashamed.


That's what my Korean friends say.

It really is an embarrassment, perhaps they should invest in their country instead of dancing around the world playing warrior. Idea


Agreed.


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young_clinton



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PureLuck wrote:
Canada's great if you know how to stay off the grid. Living homeless in Vancouver and Toronto is easy.


Do you mean living at missions? Homeless tends to imply either that or living on the street.
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ChrisPK



Joined: 07 Aug 2014

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

young_clinton wrote:
PureLuck wrote:
Canada's great if you know how to stay off the grid. Living homeless in Vancouver and Toronto is easy.


Do you mean living at missions? Homeless tends to imply either that or living on the street.


Vancouver is probably the only western city in the world where you can see so many homeless Chinese.
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KimchiNinja



Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

young_clinton wrote:
The US has mediocre public transportation in all of it's cities. More public transportation would mean weight loss for many fat Americans.

It's kind of funny, living in Saudi Arabia which has no public transportation to speak of, you see the people getting fatter and fatter. That doesn't apply to the Asian expats that do all the work, The Saudis don't work ever, they can't, there is no readiness for such an endeavor, it would be unthinkable, they drive cars to get wherever they need to go. Getting in and out of the car and walking a few hundred yards is their only exercise. You never see Saudis walking around anywhere. The girth keeps getting bigger and bigger.


Or it could be the soda consumption, and not have much to do with activity.
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KimchiNinja



Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChrisPK wrote:
young_clinton wrote:
PureLuck wrote:
Canada's great if you know how to stay off the grid. Living homeless in Vancouver and Toronto is easy.


Do you mean living at missions? Homeless tends to imply either that or living on the street.


Vancouver is probably the only western city in the world where you can see so many homeless Chinese.


Where at, in Richmond? I didn't notice many, but then I didn't look either.

They obviously are not getting in via an investment visa. How are they getting into the country and ending up homeless?
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KimchiNinja wrote:
ChrisPK wrote:
young_clinton wrote:
PureLuck wrote:
Canada's great if you know how to stay off the grid. Living homeless in Vancouver and Toronto is easy.


Do you mean living at missions? Homeless tends to imply either that or living on the street.


Vancouver is probably the only western city in the world where you can see so many homeless Chinese.


Where at, in Richmond? I didn't notice many, but then I didn't look either.

They obviously are not getting in via an investment visa. How are they getting into the country and ending up homeless?

He's probably confusing an ethnic Chinese with a North American aboriginal. Easy to confuse the two, since both have ancestors from NE Asia.
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EastisEast



Joined: 29 May 2014
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a book out in 1988 about an ethnic chinese girl who fell into prostitution and streetlife in Vancouver.
It was so popular, she was a guest on Oprah, and they may have done a mini movie about it.

Does anyone remember that? The book was astonishinlg graphic! She went through the meatgrinder.
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EastisEast



Joined: 29 May 2014
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evelyn Lau

Runaway: Diary of a Street Kid
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ChrisPK



Joined: 07 Aug 2014

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jvalmer wrote:
KimchiNinja wrote:
ChrisPK wrote:
young_clinton wrote:
PureLuck wrote:
Canada's great if you know how to stay off the grid. Living homeless in Vancouver and Toronto is easy.


Do you mean living at missions? Homeless tends to imply either that or living on the street.


Vancouver is probably the only western city in the world where you can see so many homeless Chinese.


Where at, in Richmond? I didn't notice many, but then I didn't look either.

They obviously are not getting in via an investment visa. How are they getting into the country and ending up homeless?

He's probably confusing an ethnic Chinese with a North American aboriginal. Easy to confuse the two, since both have ancestors from NE Asia.
I am talking about homeless Chinese-(Canadians) living in the Downtown Eastside, not aboriginals.

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View from the cities
Asia and the Middle East was the most common place of birth for racialized immigrants living in poverty in all three cities, but the proportions varied widely:

Montreal – 47% of poor racialized immigrants were born in Asia and the Middle East
Toronto – 74%
Vancouver – 91%.

http://www.esdc.gc.ca/eng/communities/reports/poverty_profile/images/figure2-eng.jpg
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