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UknowsI

Joined: 16 Apr 2009
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:38 am Post subject: |
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The "Game of Thrones", by George R.R Martin, is hard to put down.
I'm on the 4th book ( of five) right now.- 'A Feast For Crows'
The first book is VERY true to the HBO series , so you can jump to the second book ( 'A Clash of Kings' ) if you've already seen the TV series.
The 3rd book , ' A Storm of Swords', has been the best so far , in my opinion.
the whole series is called ' A Song of Ice & Fire.' |
While the series is entertaining enough to read, I really wish things would happen a bit faster. I read all 5 books in one go this fall, and can just imagine how slow it would be for someone who read the books as they were published.
I found "My Struggle" by Karl Ove Knausg�rd to be pretty nice:
http://www.amazon.com/My-Struggle-Book-Karl-Knausgaard/dp/1935744186/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1325777493&sr=8-2
It's an autobiography of a guy who likes to talk about his thoughts and is considered one of the most interesting Norwegian books to be published lately. |
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PatrickBateman
Joined: 08 Jun 2009 Location: American Gardens Building, West 81st Street
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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'Lunar Park'
Bret Easton Ellis
It helps a bit if you know a little about the author before reading. |
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tatertot

Joined: 21 Oct 2008
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:16 am Post subject: |
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| I've started reading Shantaram and I'm really liking it so far. |
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toadkillerdog
Joined: 11 Nov 2009 Location: Daejeon. ROK
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:24 am Post subject: |
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| Aubrey/Maturin series by Patrick O'Brian. Quite possibly one of the greatest writers of the 20th century. Brilliantly researched, written and edited historical novels about the British Navy during the Napoleonic Wars. |
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Sus
Joined: 14 Dec 2009 Location: Guri-City
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:37 pm Post subject: Sherman Alexie. |
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Sherman Alexie. He does excellent poetry and short stories. He also writes novels, but his poetry is awesome.
well known for "The Lone Ranger and Tonto Fistfight in Heaven" |
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komerican

Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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| "I Don't Believe In Atheists" by Chris Hedges. Basically makes the case that both camps have their elitist fundamentalists. When you think about it what is the point of getting rid of an ecclesiastic priesthood only to replace them with another self-appointed atheist priesthood who have placed themselves, unsurprisingly, at the top of another ahistorical and phony hierarchy. |
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rollo
Joined: 10 May 2006 Location: China
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:15 am Post subject: |
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| Clemens -Mark Twain ,read all of his short stuff it still holds up. His observations on Europe, anti-semitism are also interesting. |
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pedrotaves
Joined: 02 Mar 2011
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:33 am Post subject: |
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| "I Don't Believe In Atheists" by Chris Hedges. Basically makes the case that both camps have their elitist fundamentalists. When you think about it what is the point of getting rid of an ecclesiastic priesthood only to replace them with another self-appointed atheist priesthood who have placed themselves, unsurprisingly, at the top of another ahistorical and phony hierarchy. |
who is this hierarchy? because people write about things means they are automatically the presumed leader in this hypothetical situation?
also, you bandy about the idea of scientific fundamentalism. not possible under the scientific method. the entire history of science is typified by upheavals through new discoveries. people who love science love new discoveries, and don't get angry when things they used to believe are proved false. this is because they value truth.
empirically-based values vs. faith-based values is what it comes down to. |
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komerican

Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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Science and reason have always been used to justify all sorts of behavior by countries and individuals, usually as a cover to hide the real motives, i.e. greed or power. It's a bit childish to believe that science or reason can ever control human behavior.
And it's always about hierarchy, just look at the secular ideologies of the past that supported, slavery, colonialism, fascism, and communism. Given human nature being what it is I really don't see that changing. The times, they are NOT a-changin�.
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| "I Don't Believe In Atheists" by Chris Hedges. Basically makes the case that both camps have their elitist fundamentalists. When you think about it what is the point of getting rid of an ecclesiastic priesthood only to replace them with another self-appointed atheist priesthood who have placed themselves, unsurprisingly, at the top of another ahistorical and phony hierarchy. |
who is this hierarchy? because people write about things means they are automatically the presumed leader in this hypothetical situation?
also, you bandy about the idea of scientific fundamentalism. not possible under the scientific method. the entire history of science is typified by upheavals through new discoveries. people who love science love new discoveries, and don't get angry when things they used to believe are proved false. this is because they value truth.
empirically-based values vs. faith-based values is what it comes down to. |
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PenguinSoup
Joined: 12 Dec 2011 Location: Ansan, Gyeonggi-do
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:46 am Post subject: |
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| cheezsteakwit wrote: |
The "Game of Thrones", by George R.R Martin, is hard to put down.
I'm on the 4th book ( of five) right now.- 'A Feast For Crows'
The first book is VERY true to the HBO series , so you can jump to the second book ( 'A Clash of Kings' ) if you've already seen the TV series.
The 3rd book , ' A Storm of Swords', has been the best so far , in my opinion.
the whole series is called ' A Song of Ice & Fire.' |
While the series is entertaining enough to read, I really wish things would happen a bit faster. I read all 5 books in one go this fall, and can just imagine how slow it would be for someone who read the books as they were published.
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This series has been helping me keep my sanity in a rural area and I'm almost finished the 2nd book. Good thing it's so incredibly long. The layering of the plots are really nice and it's got some awesome character development. I'd totally reccomend it, especially to people who favor fantasy or 15th century-esque literature. |
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kilakilakila
Joined: 23 Jan 2011 Location: Gyeonggi-do
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 9:02 am Post subject: |
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'Lunar Park'
Bret Easton Ellis
It helps a bit if you know a little about the author before reading. |
Or anything by BEE, really. I have yet to hear any IRL complaints. Rich kids, drugs, sex, misery, boredom, what's not to like.
(lol Mr. Bateman) |
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The Floating World
Joined: 01 Oct 2011 Location: Here
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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You know when sometimes you want some high end literature but something completely unlike anything you have read before?
That my friends is when you need
'The Quantity Theory of Insanity' by Will Self
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'Vermillion Sands' by J.G Ballard.
Prepare for your mind to be blown up. Both excellent, original and mind twisting colcections of novellas / short stories.
I have to agree with Kormerrycan, Eastern cultures accept the whole of man's nature, good and bad etc, Western powers project this calvinist ideal of the rightious and pure and then go off doing the exact opposite whilst convincing themselves they are not and criticising the rest of the world for doing the same thing.
Got to admit one thing though; best bit of spin ever carried out.
'The smartest thing the Devil ever did was convincing the world he didn't exist.'
Sometimes that quote pretty much sums up the hypocracy of it for me.
Then again, I am also reminded of a scene from one of my favorite shows 'Northern Exposure.'
Black guy, brother of Local ex-con local radio dee-jay Chrish Stephens, calls Maurice a racist and a bigot. Maurice gets all upset and says 'hell why is it I say things like that it's biggoted but if a black person says it it's okay'
Black guy replies
'Oh you are bigotted, but it's no biggie. You know I used to hate being around white people. Then I learned that white people by no means have the monopoly on racism and bigotry and I learned to relax.'
At the moment whitey is just more succesful is all. |
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