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The Bobster



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
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In your bumbling way, you have tripped over what was always the Bush-neocon agenda - not, as they tell us daily, to create democracy, but rather to OWN something (even if it means breaking it first) but most importantly to POSSESS a very oil-rich part of the Middle East and thus be able to influence the cost of it and where it gois for the next few decades.

the US went into Iraq to steal the oil?

Didn't say that or anything like it, and you know it. You are dishonest. But we all know that about you.
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Bobster wrote:
Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
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In your bumbling way, you have tripped over what was always the Bush-neocon agenda - not, as they tell us daily, to create democracy, but rather to OWN something (even if it means breaking it first) but most importantly to POSSESS a very oil-rich part of the Middle East and thus be able to influence the cost of it and where it gois for the next few decades.

the US went into Iraq to steal the oil?

Didn't say that or anything like it, and you know it. You are dishonest. But we all know that about you.


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but most importantly to POSSESS a very oil-rich part of the Middle East and thus be able to influence the cost of it and where it gois for the next few decades.


sounds like it to me .

As for you you are the kings of lies and slander now now go bribe a poster.
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Bobster wrote:
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My boozy, late-night, maunderings aside, Bulsajo, .



Let's look at a few more choice selections.


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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Bobster wrote:
I'm an American, and I care about my country. I don't especially care about the welfare of Iraqis or Afghanis, not nearly so much as the people I know and love back home.

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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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[You'll have a hard time finiding examples of a case where I have expressed outrage merely for the fact that Iraqis are dying, rather than the damage their deaths have and are doing to my country, both in the eyes of the world and in the eyes and hearts of Americans who want to believe we are a just nation upholding the good.

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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And finally

The Bobster wrote:
[ TUM
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So as you admit, you don't really care about people dying and suffering, only for the bad PR. Glad you finally own up to it.

I've never said anything else. I care about my country. This war is bad for my country. End it. End it now.

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Bulsajo



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My First thought was WTF? Was is TUM ressurecting this thread?
Then I read the thread "Why do Liberals Hate Christians?" over in the off Topic forum and saw the connection.
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?p=986080
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thepeel



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where is Joo anyhow? I enjoyed his posts, sometimes.
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Bulsajo



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BJWD wrote:
Where is Joo anyhow? I enjoyed his posts, sometimes.

Ditto.
Thought his defense of the 2003 invasion of Iraq was um, repetitive, but his opinions on Conspiracy theories (e.g. IGTG and IGTG's sources) were always bang on.
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igotthisguitar



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BJWD wrote:
Where is Joo anyhow? I enjoyed his posts, sometimes.


The dark spook is all socked out.
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone else remember the 2003 looting of Iraq's national museum & antiquities?

This story reminded me.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Looting+Of+Iraq+antiquities

Mesopotamian Sculpture Set To Sell For Millions
... In New York

Fri Sep 14, 6:46 PM

NEW YORK (AFP) - A tiny and extremely rare 5,000-year-old white limestone sculpture from ancient Mesopotamia is expected to fetch up to 18 million dollars when it goes on sale in New York later this year.



The carved Guennol Lioness, measuring just over eight centimeters (3 1/4 inches) tall, was described by Sotheby's auction house as an icon of near-eastern ancient art and was due to be sold in New York on December 5.

The piece was acquired by private collector Alastair Bradley Martin in 1948 and has been on display in New York's Brooklyn Museum of Art ever since.

"The successful bidder in the December auction will have the distinction of owning one of the oldest, rarest and most beautiful works of art from the ancient world," Richard Keresey, head of antiquities at Sotheby's, said.

"This storied figure, in its brilliant combination of an animal form and human pose, has captured the imagination of academics and the public since it was acquired by the Martins in the late 1940s," he added.

The figure depicts a standing lioness looking over her left shoulder, her paws clenched in front of her muscular chest.

Experts have speculated that the figure may have played a role in some ancient belief system or mythology in Mesopotamia, which today lies in parts of modern day Iraq, Syria, Turkey and Iran.

The proceeds of the sale are to go to an unnamed charitable trust.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/070914/entertainment/entertainment_art
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bush Demands Another $200 Billion
To Further Fuel War ... Plans
Twisted Evil

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/us_iraq_afghanistan_military_budget
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baghdad Museum's Slow Recovery
2007 12 16
By Crispin Thorold | news.bbc.co.uk

The Assyrian Hall at the Iraqi National Museum is breathtaking.

Stone panels from the royal palace at Khorsabad run along the walls.



The carvings on the friezes depict daily life in the Assyrian royal court, which at its height about 3,000 years ago controlled a region stretching across much of the modern Middle East.

In one panel a distinctly regal king looks at his subjects as a courtier fans him. Another panel shows priests carrying out religious rituals.

The workmanship on the friezes is delicate. The carefully placed spotlights bring the carvings to life and it is easy for your mind to be transported to ancient Mesopotamia.

Recent work in the hall has included the addition of a modern arch, which is flanked by ancient bulls with eagle wings and human heads.

It forms the entrance to the hall, which gives you the sense of walking into an Assyrian palace.

Looted vaults
Perhaps the Assyrian gallery is so stunning because it is so unexpected in Baghdad.

This gallery, one of only two that are open to visitors to the Iraqi National Museum, gives a hint of the glories that were once in the national collection.

That collection was devastated in the days following the US-led invasion in 2003, when looters emptied the vaults.

The only items that were saved were either too heavy to carry, like those in the Assyrian Hall, or were being stored elsewhere at the time, like the Nimrud treasures.

Since then the museum has been through challenging times. Its controversial director, Donny George, left Iraq after he said that he had received death threats.

The entrances to the museum's galleries were bricked up.

Now those walls have been knocked down and a new director has been appointed.

MORE ...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7144701.stm

When asked why the U.S. military did not try to guard the museum in the days after the invasion succeeded, Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said "If you remember, when some of that looting was going on, people were being killed, people were being wounded ... It's as much as anything else a matter of priorities." Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, who described the period of looting in general as "untidiness", said of the museum's looting, "To try to pass off the fact of that unfortunate activity to a deficit in the war plan strikes me as a stretch." Secretary of State Colin Powell said, "The United States understands its obligations and will be taking a leading role with respect to antiquities in general but this museum in particular."

Dr. Donny George, General Director Research Studies for the Board of Antiquities in Iraq, said of the looting, "It's the crime of the century, because it affects the heritage of all mankind". After the U.S. Marines set up headquarters in Baghdad's Palestine Hotel, George said he went there to plead for troops to protect the remainder of the Museum collection, but no guards were sent for another three days.

Whether or not this is due to continued fighting is "unclear".

Attempts to recover lost items
A few days later, agents of the FBI were sent to Iraq to search for stolen Museum property.

UNESCO organized an emergency meeting of antiquities experts on April 17, 2003 in Paris to deal with the aftermath of the looting and its effects on the global art and antiquities market.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Museum_of_Iraq
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