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earthquakez
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 Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:36 am Post subject: |
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| So stop it already with your manipulative attempts to shelter Korean society and Koreans from analysis. |
No one is sheltering it from analysis. But a driveby paragraph spewing a bunch of generalizations is not analysis. It is a driveby paragraph spewing a bunch of generalizations.
Now, your next post was certainly more than that, though there were points I disagreed with.
But I disagree that your view of Korea is the norm. I have known some people that had negative experiences and left. Some who had great ones and came back or stick around. And some who got their paycheck and left, neither dissatisfied nor overjoyed. One of the nice things about being in a small town is that you get to know every NET there and thus you don't get stuck in an echo chamber of Koreaboos or bashers. There's a diverse array of opinion out there. I mean you wouldn't know I was an apologist if you randomly met me and had no idea who I was. I argue here so I don't argue out there. Some people who complain here don't rant and rave out there. They're much more likely to be sympathetic and patient in the real world.
I do tend to look at people's actions. If things are truly as bad as people make them out to be, people leave. That's why some people might pull midnight runs. They have a crap hagwon and can't stand things here. If they complain a lot but don't really take any action, they either like to complain or things aren't as bad as they make them out to be. |
Well, that's a reasonable response even though I don't agree with all of it. I don't think the OP or anybody else who likes to insulate themselves from Korean culture while living and working in Korea needs to leave the country. It totally depends on the individual.
I think it is undeniable that Koreans (and Japanese to some extent) display a fair bit of hypocrisy regarding their complaints about foreigners only coming for money or because they supposedly can't get jobs or women at home - three usual complaints I heard regularly in my fairly long combined total time in both countries.
Both Koreans and Japanese (Koreans more so because more of them live either temporarily or permanently/semi-permanently abroad) have their cake and eat it in the UK and elsewhere. They are not coming for any other reason than to make money or do other things to benefit themselves. Yet somehow the rest of the world has to acknowledge their apparent 'privilege' in being able to work and pay taxes or study and pay fees in Korea and Japan.
There's also been a big trend over the past 15 yrs of Koreans and Japanese sending their children to secondary schools and colleges/universities in other countries because their children can't cut it at home.
There is little desire to experience globalisation going on, more pragmatic reasons of gap YEARS outside Korea and Japan. Which is fine until Koreans and Japanese get their knickers in a twist over foreigners living under far more limited visa conditions in their own countries, especially considering the taxes and consumption of goods by foreigners which are helping the Korean and Japanese economies. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2014 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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| earthquakez wrote: |
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There's also been a big trend over the past 15 yrs of Koreans and Japanese sending their children to secondary schools and colleges/universities in other countries because their children can't cut it at home.
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Maybe in Japan...but in Korea it appears this trend is reversing
http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/business/2014/02/02/8/0503000000AEN20140202001600320F.html
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| The ministry's survey said that compared to 2006, the number of such students nearly halved by 2012. A count of only university-level students marked a 5.1 percent on-year fall last year to slightly over 227,000, the ministry said |
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