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[truthfulchat]

Seems all you athiests do is make threats against religious people. You athiests seem to always think inflicting pain is going to solve something.

Here is another note you should know. I am not just representing Christians but I also represent Muslims, Jews, Hindus and Buddhists. I may be Christian but I do practice the love one another verse and have been an activist for religious rights and freedoms for many years.

No religious person deserves to be discriminated or hated because they believe in a higher power. You athiests get mad because we want to teach the our holy books to our children but when it comes to teaching people there is no higher power you guys take the chance to discredit there is a higher power.

So in reality your hatred shows who you are and that even though you say you believe in humanity, there truly is no humanity in you.

[Mix1]

Everyone has a different take on religion and faith, I guess.
Which makes it all so hard to believe. One guy says this, another guy says that...it's all just a bunch of people putting their own spin/interpretation on what God wants and what God is (or Jesus, Buddah, Krishna, Zeus, or whatever.) So in the end, nobody really knows ...

But there are some things we do know...
that most of the metaphysical claims in the bible have proven to be FALSE. Plus, If it really was the word of God, why was there no mention of the germ theory, DNA, the real age of the earth, evolution, black holes, dinosaurs, etc.?

As for the stories in it, how true are they really? While there are some historical basis for some of them, we don't really know to what extent they are even true. There have been cases of biblical texts found that were not included in the bible (the dead sea scrolls), and there were also different versions of the bible in circulation at the same time. Pretty hard to believe it as gospel at that point.

As for moral lessons in the bible, yes there are some good guidelines we can follow. But it always seems that people pick and choose and are never consistent on either what they think the bible says or in terms of their behavior in general. I've got a friend who says "Jesus has my back". He can then proceed to rationalize various "sins" that he commits from time to time. It's all a big joke really. And this goes on down the line from "liberal" Christians all the way down to the God-fearing conservative creationist/rapture type televangelists.

Does religion and faith comfort and help people? Yes, it very well may, but this has no bearing on whether it is true or not. It's probably a comforting human trait to want to believe in a higher power, and probably common to want to spread/influence/share this interpretation of said higher power with others.

But let's face it, Christianity can and should be mocked and ridiculed just as any belief system can. Christians have no problem mocking various other faiths, sects, or belief systems (Islam, Hindu, Wiccan, Pagan, Mormonism, atheism, etc.) so why should Christians be excused from criticism? As for the arrogance claim, most Christians believe THEY are going into heaven, while the rest of us non-Christians or fake-Christians are going to hell. Now THAT'S arrogant, wouldn't you say? They may not state that, but it is the underlying belief system.

If someone can discount, for example, Mormonism, as bogus (and why not? it's (or was)racist, secretive, has magic underpants, etc.) then why not take it a step further and start looking at all religious beliefs under the same critical lens? I'd be willing to bet most religious people don't honestly believe most aspects of their faith deep down anyway, but they WANT to believe the nonsense and often feel the need to believe it so as not to endure the imagined wrath of their god or gods. Come on people, you can do better than that, time to snap out of it.

goodnight.

(sorry for double posting on other thread...I'm lazy)

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[Mix1]

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[Biblethumper]

Campus Crusade for Christ is an heretical para-church organization.

Now, if a reformed missionary in the tradtion of John Knox entered my classroom I would be only to happy to let him preach to the heathen.

[bellum99]

I believe in God. Really I do. I also don't believe in the bible. Most Christians think it has to be both and I don't agree. The new testament is a more rational belief structure but everything was written by men (NOT GOD). Men see what they want to see and men rationalize what they want to do...so I think the bible is flawed.


I look at the complexity of life and all its various forms and think there must be some sort of order involved. Evolution is a function but it controlled by God's design. Everything in the universe seems to break down to its simplest form but not life. Life continues to get more complex despite adversity.


Mutations alone cannot account for a human being.


(Note: I wouldn't let the crazy people into my classroom either.)

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[mistermasan]

the opposite of love is not hate. it is apathy. pretty much what i have for organized religion when it isn't in my face.

but when is it not in my face? the war on terror is a war of religions. everytime i go downtown i get chatted up by richie cunninghams from utah in black suits or by koreans wanting to practice english but packing plenny o copies of "watchtower". oh, i wonder if a buddhist will show up this week with a collection box. organized religion is all over the TV and clogging up channels that could be much better served.

at every turn religion is blatantly thrust upon us. and yes, it does get tiring.

[truthfulchat]

I should alter that when I say all athiests incite hate and violence. However, maybe not all athiest do that, but as you read in this forum the so-called criticisms have been targeted in a hatred and discriminating way.

In reference to the Bible. The verses of the bible were inspired by God's word not directly written by him. It is common knowledge when Constantine brought Peter to organize a structured holy text, there were sections of the bible that were not put in. The goal of Constantine was to put only texts that are exactly the same and not any texts that he felt was irrelavent, though there was clear mention in the bible that we may find out later there is more to God then what we know now. So in reference to the Dead Sea Scrolls, these are believed to be holy and probably may be the sections that were omitted.

Why Constantine did that? No one really knows but this is what even historical context will tell you.

Which brings up an issue. Do christians not like or believe in scientists? The answer is no, we do accept many scientific views and it was scientists who have discovered things like the Dead Sea Scrolls. We may disagree with some thangs like evolution but there are things we do need scientists for.

[chris_J2]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7vs21ZKrKM

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