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Lucas
Joined: 11 Sep 2012
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Smithington wrote:
They deserve what they get.
See, I don't get this at all.
You essentially agree that the laws are complete bullish, so then why do they "deserve" what they get?
It's like saying that a women is a short skit deserves to be raped.....
Well that example sucks, but can you see what I'm getting at? You obviously agree that harsh penalties against marijuana are wrong, so why would you in a sense support any system which promotes these policies? |
These are the rules of Korea, WE choose to come here.
You can get on a plane any time you want and go/work in a country that has different laws... |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:04 am Post subject: |
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Let's get real here for a moment Steels....
Why in the hell do you fell it necessary to defend a nation which essentially created the atmosphere which exported you as an unwanted child?
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Yes, let's get real.
First, adoption is a choice individuals make. Countries everywhere have adoption. Furthermore, it was more than happy to import me back in.
And they were even so good as to import YOU. After all, YOUR home country didn't much care about where you were bought and sold and let you go at no cost! 
Looks like we're in the same boat buddy.
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it's like you have some sort of Stockholm syndrome here were you feel an incessant need to defend something that is the source of much of your angst and hurt.
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I don't think so as Korea is not a source of angst and hurt. If it was, I wouldn't be here. I'd be in France or Thailand or...Uruguay.
No, if anyone has angst and hurt it is the people that rail on this place because they are so impotent in bringing about any change in their condition.
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| Steels, like it or not, you're not Korean....and you're closer to most of us that you'd probably like to admit. |
Lovely that you have to boil everything down to my ethnicity. What does that have to do with this issue? Sounds more like you have issues relating to it than I do. |
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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:12 am Post subject: |
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| I guess I'm the only one that likes Korea's laws in this area. I remember walking into a parking garage stairwell in Victoria (Canada) and a young junkie woman was lying there. I never worry about my car stereo being stolen like it was in Toronto either. I think the lack of street crime here relates to the lack of drugs. |
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JDLT
Joined: 20 Apr 2014
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 3:07 am Post subject: |
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I don't think so as Korea is not a source of angst and hurt. If it was, I wouldn't be here. I'd be in France or Thailand or...Uruguay.
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So where does this insensate need to defend Korea at every turn come from?
Like it or not there is some sort of complex at work here with you. I don't mind posters offering a little balance, but you're posts have become so god-damn predictable that's is nauseating.
I'm on this board a few times a month because there is some good information here - but whenever I see one of your posts (and there's plenty to choose from) I already know what's going to be said.
Give it up man! Go outside and get some air and don't worry about most of the trolls.
Your stance on defending Korea's honor is a lost cause here. You're not winning any battles and dare I might say you're basically adding fuel to the fire. |
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JDLT
Joined: 20 Apr 2014
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 3:11 am Post subject: |
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| I guess I'm the only one that likes Korea's laws in this area. I remember walking into a parking garage stairwell in Victoria (Canada) and a young junkie woman was lying there. I never worry about my car stereo being stolen like it was in Toronto either. I think the lack of street crime here relates to the lack of drugs. |
Yeah, and you never some passed out drunks in Jongro on a Sunday night?
Furthermore, don't get cranks or heroin confused with weed.
The lack of street crime has a lot more to do with the social means of relating to one another, strong family bonds and the homogeneous culture.
Koreans booze it up just as much as anybody, but you don't really see the same drunken brawls as you do in a place like Manchester late at night. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 4:00 am Post subject: |
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Korea's (Asia's) hard stance on drugs certainly makes for more peaceable streets. If only pot got a fairer shake, but thats not in the cards in the foreseeable future.
Sniffer dog checking out everyone's baggage at customs clearance at Incheon when I came in a couple weeks ago. |
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crescent
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: yes.
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 4:16 am Post subject: |
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I'm not sure about the being charged part..... I am not sure what the international regulations are, but it may be something along the lines of prostitution tourism or something...... I'm not sure if that would be significant or not. And even then you might not get..... or some such legal mumbo-jumbo.
This isn't just in Korea. |
Then shut up 'or something'. Even when you don't know what you're talking about, you still think its relevant to compare it to America. |
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trueblue
Joined: 15 Jun 2014
Location: In between the lines
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:53 am Post subject: |
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Their country, their rules.
However...life here would improve if the ganja was not a big deal.
...sigh...I miss Colorado.
(But yet, Korean teachers connected to sexual crimes against students seem to receive a slap on the wrist).
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Hokie21
Joined: 01 Mar 2011
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 5:58 am Post subject: |
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Wait....SR is Korean??  I always kind of pictured him as a 40 year old neckbeard or something. |
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EZE
Joined: 05 May 2012
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:01 am Post subject: |
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| Who's Your Daddy? wrote: |
| I guess I'm the only one that likes Korea's laws in this area. I remember walking into a parking garage stairwell in Victoria (Canada) and a young junkie woman was lying there. I never worry about my car stereo being stolen like it was in Toronto either. I think the lack of street crime here relates to the lack of drugs. |
You're not the only one. My hometown is full of pillheads breaking into people's homes at all hours for painkillers or anything they can pawn for meth. It's nice to not have to sleep with a pistol-grip shotgun. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:09 am Post subject: |
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I'm not sure about the being charged part..... I am not sure what the international regulations are, but it may be something along the lines of prostitution tourism or something...... I'm not sure if that would be significant or not. And even then you might not get..... or some such legal mumbo-jumbo.
This isn't just in Korea. |
Then shut up 'or something'. Even when you don't know what you're talking about, you still think its relevant to compare it to America. |
Sorry, but this is a relevant point. It's not a mindless comparison, it's a very real issue. I don't know the precise details, but that doesn't mean the point shouldn't be noted.
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| Wait....SR is Korean?? Shocked I always kind of pictured him as a 40 year old neckbeard or something. |
Apparently making an issue out of my ethnicity (and not even my nationality) is somehow fair game for posters here, though they'd howl if someone ever made their ethnicity an issue and a reason to dismiss their points.
Complain about discrimination and prejudice and then practice it... |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:21 am Post subject: |
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I don't think so as Korea is not a source of angst and hurt. If it was, I wouldn't be here. I'd be in France or Thailand or...Uruguay.
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So where does this insensate need to defend Korea at every turn come from?
Like it or not there is some sort of complex at work here with you. I don't mind posters offering a little balance, but you're posts have become so god-damn predictable that's is nauseating.
I'm on this board a few times a month because there is some good information here - but whenever I see one of your posts (and there's plenty to choose from) I already know what's going to be said.
Give it up man! Go outside and get some air and don't worry about most of the trolls.
Your stance on defending Korea's honor is a lost cause here. You're not winning any battles and dare I might say you're basically adding fuel to the fire. |
Obviously you have a complex about me and my ethnicity, why else did you make this personal and bring up ethnicity?
Dude, if I'm getting under your skin this much that's sad. I may go on the reflexive defense of Korea (as I tend to do about any culture, see me and Canada, Muslims, African-Americans (see the Trayvon Martin thread), but I don't target posters personally and track their life story. Argue an issue and go back to work or crash for the night. If you start making it personal that just means your argument sucks. |
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Stain
Joined: 08 Jan 2014
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:22 am Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
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I'm not sure about the being charged part..... I am not sure what the international regulations are, but it may be something along the lines of prostitution tourism or something...... I'm not sure if that would be significant or not. And even then you might not get..... or some such legal mumbo-jumbo.
This isn't just in Korea. |
Then shut up 'or something'. Even when you don't know what you're talking about, you still think its relevant to compare it to America. |
Sorry, but this is a relevant point. It's not a mindless comparison, it's a very real issue. I don't know the precise details, but that doesn't mean the point shouldn't be noted.
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| Wait....SR is Korean?? Shocked I always kind of pictured him as a 40 year old neckbeard or something. |
Apparently making an issue out of my ethnicity (and not even my nationality) is somehow fair game for posters here, though they'd howl if someone ever made their ethnicity an issue and a reason to dismiss their points.
Complain about discrimination and prejudice and then practice it... |
Steelrails, that is Intellectual Disputation and I refuse to hear it. |
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Mr. BlackCat
Joined: 30 Nov 2005
Location: Insert witty remark HERE
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:43 am Post subject: |
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This isn't just in Korea. An American in Alabama could travel to Colorado, come back to Alabama, be perfectly sober, get in a car accident and because you have it in your system, get charged with a crime and end up losing your job because of that. [b] The problem is that international and federal laws haven't caught up with the new reality of decriminalization or outright legalization and that this needs to be addressed both at the U.S. federal level and through the U.N. so that there can be some clarification.
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I think you're stretching it there with the car accident scenario, but your point still stands in reference to job prospects in the US. I disagree with that as much as I disagree with the Korean situation, but we're talking about Korea so that's what I used as an example. In any event, you always bring it back to the US, but you have to realize there are lots of other countries out there and many/most of them don't do drug tests for non-technical jobs. I would also like to state that I can disagree with a national policy and still work within that system. If I had to leave every country that I had some disagreement with I would be Tom Hanks in Airport, but even then I'd have a problem with the free refill policy at one of the restaurants there. It's not like treating women as second class citizens, which is why I wouldn't live in Saudi Arabia. It's just a thing I don't like.
The thing is, pot stays in your system much longer than much harder drugs. Coke isn't legal in most (all?) nations, but you could pass a test within a week. Pot, on the other hand, is fine in many civilized jurisdictions but can bite you in the ass 3-4 months down the road.
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just as you say its not a one-way street on the foreigners side, its not a one-way street on the Korean side either.
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Yeah, that's why I said some Koreans.
But I would be interested if you thought it'd be ok if someone said because they saw some black guys outside a McDonalds a few years ago causing trouble they believe all black guys are criminal thugs. For someone who is so adamantly against foreigners stereotyping Koreans you seem to be fine with Koreans stereotyping foreigners. |
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Mr. BlackCat
Joined: 30 Nov 2005
Location: Insert witty remark HERE
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| Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:53 am Post subject: |
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Let's get real here for a moment Steels....
Why in the hell do you fell it necessary to defend a nation which essentially created the atmosphere which exported you as an unwanted child?
I just don't get it....it's like you have some sort of Stockholm syndrome here were you feel an incessant need to defend something that is the source of much of your angst and hurt.
Steels, like it or not, you're not Korean....and you're closer to most of us that you'd probably like to admit. |
I know this is dave's and this sort of thing happens all the time. I also know that you're probably trollish and trying to get a rise.
But as someone who often calls out SR, I just want to say this post is vile and completely uncalled for. It's been done before, and SR always handles it himself as he's done here. But I just wanted to say it's not ok.
SR says so much stupid crap and spams every thread that we have enough material to go after him without going down to this level. This sort of personal attack only detracts from the real take downs of his inane posts. |
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