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NY Times: Secret U.S. Endorsement of Severe Interrogations
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yawarakaijin



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

24 was a stunner wasn't it. Wink Almost as stunning how easily you label me FAR letf on the basis of a single post. Almost as stunning how it's become unamerican NOT to resort to torture. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:55 pm    Post subject: Re: NY Times: Secret U.S. Endorsement of Severe Interrogatio Reply with quote

Hater Depot wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/04/washington/04interrogate.html?_r=2&hp=&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin

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When the Justice Department publicly declared torture �abhorrent� in a legal opinion in December 2004, the Bush administration appeared to have abandoned its assertion of nearly unlimited presidential authority to order brutal interrogations.

But soon after Alberto R. Gonzales�s arrival as attorney general in February 2005, the Justice Department issued another opinion, this one in secret. It was a very different document, according to officials briefed on it, an expansive endorsement of the harshest interrogation techniques ever used by the Central Intelligence Agency.

The new opinion, the officials said, for the first time provided explicit authorization to barrage terror suspects with a combination of painful physical and psychological tactics, including head-slapping, simulated drowning and frigid temperatures.

Mr. Gonzales approved the legal memorandum on �combined effects� over the objections of James B. Comey, the deputy attorney general, who was leaving his job after bruising clashes with the White House. Disagreeing with what he viewed as the opinion�s overreaching legal reasoning, Mr. Comey told colleagues at the department that they would all be �ashamed� when the world eventually learned of it.

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Never in history had the United States authorized such tactics. While President Bush and C.I.A. officials would later insist that the harsh measures produced crucial intelligence, many veteran interrogators, psychologists and other experts say that less coercive methods are equally or more effective.

With virtually no experience in interrogations, the C.I.A. had constructed its program in a few harried months by consulting Egyptian and Saudi intelligence officials and copying Soviet interrogation methods long used in training American servicemen to withstand capture. The agency officers questioning prisoners constantly sought advice from lawyers thousands of miles away.


Electrified nutsack...*yawn*

http://www.crooksandliars.com/Media/Download/22254/1/colbert_word_mighty_duck_10-10-07.wmv
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JMO



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmbfan wrote:
Torture the phuckers..........!


Or, we can listen to the far left liber fish tacos, who really don't seem to have a clue on how to defend a country.


Government agent: "Mr. Alahbabalmal...were is the bomb? What are
your plans? Who are you working with?"

Alahbabalmal............"I won't tell you nothing...infadel!!!!".

Government agent: "Mr. Alahbabalmal......PLEASE tell me! Oh c'mon,
please! I'll be your best friend!!! Oh, would
some ice cream help? Please tell me !!!! I have
to find out, pleeeeeeeease!!!!!"


Yeah, thats the ticket!!!

Some of you really have your heads up your arsses.


dmbfan


is the middle and near left all about torture i wonder.

of course torture has never been proven to find out actual real information. If someone was 'waterboarding' me i would tell them anything. of course it wouldn't be true, something plausible that would stop them from hurting me. Then they could use that info to, i don't know, go to war. How exactly did they get that info about WMDs i wonder?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmbfan wrote:
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If you are zealous or crazy enough to think that detonating a nuclear device in a city is a cool thing to do, are you going to give your interrogator your secrets? If you really think whatever number of virgins are waiting for you after your glorious martyrdom are you going to be afraid to die?

Somebody is watching too much 24




Ah, so that is your justification? Just, giving up or palying paddycakes?
Wow...24.......................quite the stunner there, man.


Hey, you'll fit right in with the far left!

dmbfan


You rightys seem to be doing a bang up job of it all as well. Still must be nice to get some false confessions and flagrantly disregard human rights. You're not fighting for freedom, you're fighting for the American way. It's the wrong way but faster.
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