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| Should Adultery Be Illegal? |
| YES (I'm Female) |
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| YES (I'm Male) |
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| NO (I'm Female) |
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| NO (I'm Male) |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
| CentralCali wrote: |
| I don't think it should be illegal; however, I do think it should be recognized as grounds for a divorce. |
Yup. Divorce, yes. Jail, no.
And not just adultery, but ANY law outlawing what 2 consenting adults do in their bedroom should be taken off the books. That goes for all the archaeic sodomy laws in the US, among other examples. |
Really, so if 2 consenting adults decided to rape someone, that would be fine? |
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twg

Joined: 02 Nov 2006 Location: Getting some fresh air...
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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| jinju wrote: |
| Really, so if 2 consenting adults decided to rape someone, that would be fine? |
Christ, you're an idiot. |
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tzechuk

Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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| jay-shi wrote: |
| tzechuk wrote: |
I don't know about putting someone who commits adultery in jail, but if polygamy is illegal, what makes a married person engaging in sex with a person other than his/her spouse right, just because they aren't going to get *married*?
Or am I missing something here?  |
tzechuk,
You bring up a valid argument and train of thought.
However, it's not about right and wrong in the legal context. That is an ethical argument that has nothing to do with law. Marriage, adultery and polygamy are all legal constructs.
Law and ethics, though often associated and intertwined, are very different entities. For most of human history slavery was regulated and protected under law, does/did it make it ethically right? |
I am looking at it purely from the point the OP made - should adultery be illegal - and comparing it with polygamy.
Funnily - I am teaching Business ethics this semester.. am making a multiple choice test as we speak.
Oops.. class time! |
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Young FRANKenstein

Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 12:28 am Post subject: |
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| jinju wrote: |
| Really, so if 2 consenting adults decided to rape someone, that would be fine? |
Moron. Their victim doesn't exactly consent to it, do they? Go troll somewhere else, asshat. |
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superdave

Joined: 20 Aug 2006 Location: over there ----->
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 4:35 am Post subject: |
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in my opinion, since i strongly believe in separation of church and state, if marriage is a church institution, then adultery shouldn't be illegal. therefore the government shouldn't be policing church policy.
however, common law marriages are now recognised by the government, and it's possible to marry without a church being involved, then in such cases adultery should be illegal.
but ... having said that ... i'm not talking about jail time illegal ... i'm talking about adulterer losing all rights to settlement and custody illegal. the government should automatically side with the non-adulterous partner. therefore, if the adultery is deemed grounds for divorce, then the adulterer has no legal rights to make demands.
you go bumping nasty elsewhere, don't come home and expect half of everything when your partner boots your ass outa the house. |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Location: $eoul
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:32 am Post subject: |
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Absolutely not. The numbskulls who voted YES obviously haven�t considered the following and presumably know absolutely sod all about law:
(1) Adultery is redressed by civil law (adultery is grounds for divorce); bigamy and polygamy have more obvious criminal law ramifications and hence they are criminal offences but adultery the concern only of civil law (where the objective is (a) redress an injured party, as opposed to punish an offender, and also to (b) satisfy the probability of truth, as opposed to satisfying 'all reasonable doubt').
(2) Adultery is behavior between individuals and less clearly concerns the state. An adulterer decieves only his wife and maybe bit on the side. A bigamist deceives the state too.
(3) Adultery is hard to prove and causes difficulties for criminal law because of the strict requirement (certainty) for a conviction (whereas in a divorce case, the injured party must only satisfy mere probability to win); bigamy and polygamy by contrast are easier to prove I�d imagine.
(4) Straightforwardly in my opinion, getting someone to enter a marriage on the basis of such a big deception should be a criminal offence; having a sexual relationship with someone not necessarily on the basis of deceit should not be a criminal offence. It�s just too much.
(5) How are adulterous individuals to be brought before the law? Call the cops? "Yes, hello officer, I've just seen my wife with some other bloke.....". Jesus H Christ.
(6) It�s not immediately clear why adulterers are of sufficient threat to society to brought before criminal law. The motivation for bigamy/polygamy is usually more sinister than mere sexual attraction.
| cdninkorea wrote: |
| I've always wondered, and never heard the same answer twice, what constitutes sufficient evidence to prove adultery in a Korean court of law? A jail sentence is pretty serious so I'm hoping a lot of evidence is required. |
Exactly what any intelligent person should ask. In the West it�d be almost impossible to prove. If rape, a violent, brutal act, has such a low conviction rate (which it does, because it�s difficult for juries to satisfy criminal law�s strict requirement � certainty), then how are to convict an adulterer?
| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
| cdninkorea wrote: |
| I've always wondered, and never heard the same answer twice, what constitutes sufficient evidence to prove adultery in a Korean court of law? A jail sentence is pretty serious so I'm hoping a lot of evidence is required. |
I was under the impression you have to catch them in the act ot have a lot of video/photo evidence.. ie. follow them around and catch them with witnesses. I hope that's not the only way to do it, but that's the way I've heard it going down. |
Sounds very tricky. Stick to civil law where the requirements are probability and not certainty. Jesus, I realized Koreans don�t exactly do logic, but this stuff is fuct up. |
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