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Alyallen

Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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i think its very interesting that humans are the only species that drink the milk of another species. go the soy milk!
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Is that interesting? The list of things that "humans are the only species" to do is pretty extensive. Should we give up all the activities that are unique to humans?
Besides, what is the reason other species don't drink another species' milk? Because they decided it's not good for them? Ever seen an animal expert guy on TV feeding a baby tiger milk from a bottle? I'm guessing he didn't milk a tigress to get that milk. |
It does happen under certain circumstances. There are so many of those cutesy stories of cats giving milk to dogs or dogs giving milk to tiger cubs or one story which was a goat giving milk to some endangered tiger or something.
See...so cute!
Cat mom to pups....
Rottweiler mom to lambs....
Cat mom to rottweillers.... |
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Kwangjuchicken

Joined: 01 Sep 2003 Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Juregen wrote: |
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I love milk, I drink at least one cup a day.
I love cheese too, not the American version though, you know, processed cheese that come in handy packages. |
Yes, because ALL American cheese is processed and comes in a handy package |
haa you know well enough what type I mean, i am not a complete moron to know that good cheese can be made in America.
It's just that i have no other way to describe that kind of cheese. |
The best way is to say Korean "cheese", The plastic wrapper has more taste than the "cheese".
And American Omish Cheese HEAVEN Their Bleu Chesse is better than French Societe Roquefort |
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Control Z
Joined: 20 Jun 2007 Location: Anyang
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:36 am Post subject: |
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Milk: The Deadly Poison
It's a book by Robert Cohen, an anti-milk crusader. He has a website (www.notmilk.com).
I read a very long and scientific article two years ago that is based on an interview with Cohen.
I didn't consume dairy anymore after that.
It's a 25-page Word document but here are some highlights:
-The dairy industry will tell you that they don't allow
antibiotics in milk but the Consumer's Union and the Wall Street Journal
tested milk samples a few years ago in the New York area and found
evidence of 52 different antibiotics. I discovered that the FDA said
it's well within the range but they changed the range. They
increased it by 100 times. And you know who did it? Margaret Miller -
the same woman who used to work for Monsanto whom I earlier
mentioned. There's collusion. They know genetic engineering is going on
to produce a sicker animal putting more pus and phlegm into the milk
along with blood so they change the standards. The levels of pus cells -
they call them somatic cells - have been increasing steadily since
genetically engineered milk. You know how much pus there is in milk?
Last year the average quart of milk sold in America contained 323
million pus cells.
-As a matter of fact, a book was just written called the Okinawa Program
where they compare calcium intake among different nations. In South
Africa, for instance, women are eating 80 mgs. a day of calcium
whereas in America, we're eating 983 mgs. Yet we have 14 times the
rate of pelvic fractures. Interestingly, those nations eating the
most dairy products have the highest rates of bone disease. So do we
really have a calcium crisis in America? That's what the dairy
industry wants us to believe. Yet you cannot absorb milk's calcium
without an equal amount of magnesium. It's a one to one
proportion. Go look at the supplements, they're calcium and
magnesium together. But have you ever heard anybody say we have a
magnesium crisis?
Broccoli is an excellent source of calcium but the broccoli
growers don't have a strong enough lobby against the milk
industry and its successful "Got Milk?" campaign.
-You can listen to me talk for a week and you can
listen to the dairy propaganda and be thoroughly confused.
But you know what, you can try a little experiment for yourself.
This experiment takes just seven days. For seven days, I want
you to eat nothing from a cow's utter. That means no
Parmesan cheese. That means when you see a label that says
casein or whey you say no way. Don't eat anything from a cow's
utter for seven days. During that seven-day period what's
going to happen is you're going to have about three extra
quarts of mucous expelled from your body because 80% of
milk protein is casein. Casein is used to make glue, the glue that
used to keep labels on beer bottles. When you eat casein
your body produces histamines and mucous. Your kidneys,
spleen, pancreas and all your internal organs are clogged up.
So in seven days you're now going to have almost three
quarts to a gallon of mucous leave your body. It's like an
internal fog lift. Everybody will experience this change. You
will sleep better, have more spirit and energy, greater
learning capacity, you will even dream better-everything changes.
The Townsend Medical Letter attributed milk with all its hormones to
mood swings, depression and irritability. That's all going to go
away in seven days. Then on day eight I want you to have pizza for
dinner with ice cream for dessert and it's all going to come back on
day nine. You'd better have an extra roll of tissues handy because
you're going to produce internal sludge and it's going to come out
the other end of your body. I want you to do that and pay careful
attention. A little one week experiment and you're going to learn
what milk and dairy has been doing to you all of your life that you
haven't noticed. You do notice when somebody takes a dog for a walk
that the dog has no problem with his or her bowel movements
because the dog is regular. A dog doesn't need toilet paper. You do
and you need it big time because things just don't come out right.
But you can teach yourself to make everything come out right.
Eliminate just this one food group from your body and see how
good you feel.
You're going to feel better and that's the bottom line.
I've never felt better and have never had a cold since. It's worked for me.
Why do you think Korean children have been getting so
much taller and bigger? My boss's doctor recommended
that his two kids each drink a liter of milk a day along with
four slices of cheese. Ugh. |
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Rteacher

Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:56 am Post subject: |
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Cows milk is a pure food and is highly beneficial for humans especially for kids. However, dairy industry practices, abuses, and bad processing has made it less beneficial. And, even when it's pure and well-processed, consuming too much will create too much mucous and make you sick.
Although people are very fond of eating ice cream and frozen yogurt, the Ayur-veda recommends drinking milk when it's very warm. It is believed to nourish the finest brain cells needed for spiritual thinking.
Vedic culture (arguably the world's most spiritually progressive) holds cows to be in the mode of goodness, and considers cow's milk to be "liquid religiosity" ...
Vedic culture has a much lower estimation of soy beans, though, considering them to be mainly food for lower animals (like pigs...)
It's a fact that some ethnic groups (like Jews and blacks) tend to be more lactose intolerant than others, and individuals who are allergic obviously need to find good milk substitutes.
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One of my concerns is that as cows milk is consumed less in a society (due largely to misguided propaganda) atheism, irreligiosity, and pig-like behavior will naturally become even more prevalent (then is already evident on this forum...) |
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Been There, Taught That

Joined: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Mungyeong: not a village, not yet a metroplex.
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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| [I] think its very interesting that humans are the only species that drink the milk of another species. [G]o...soy milk! |
http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz/
http://www.frot.co.nz/dietnet/basics/soy.htm
http://www.mercola.com/2007/jun/14/an-urgent-warning-to-parents-about-the-dangers-of-soy-milk-for-babies.htm
http://www.analagoatcompany.com/Earth%20Mother/Goats%20Milk.htm
You think milk is bad for you, but soy is worse. Avoid soy. That advocate from the antimilk book and campaign obviously is missing a step or two, because he has proudly stated that he switched his own mother to soy milk! He might as well feed her raw soybeans fresh from the field.
Additives like rBGH--does anyone know how widely this is used in Korea?-- may be a threat to health, but milk is not. Raw milk from clean, uninjected cows fed grass, natural to their diet, is no danger to anyone. Abraham (Old Testament) even served goat's milk and meat together! Then, Paul went on later in history to say that there's a lot of weak-willed people out there who know no better than to forbid people to eat this and that without knowing all the facts.
Granted, foods like pork products and gopher and possum and armadillo and shark/dolphin and turtle and shellfish and bottom-feeding seafood--and that insect-type thing Koreans cook up in big pots that smells so awful--really are bad for us. Need evidence?
But leave fresh, unaltered cow and goat dairy products alone and read up on the health dangers of soy instead. Even in Korea, the raw stuff must be available for a price, and probably without all the legal wrangling attached to it in the US and other western countries. And all the soy and rice drinks available in the stores is a Western conciliation. Koreans don't generally consume that. I don't know much about rice milk, but why waste your time when real milk is available? |
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Been There, Taught That

Joined: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Mungyeong: not a village, not yet a metroplex.
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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Vedic culture has a much lower estimation of soy beans, though, considering them to be mainly food for lower animals (like pigs...)
It's a fact that some ethnic groups (like Jews and blacks) tend to be more lactose intolerant than others, and individuals who are allergic obviously need to find good milk substitutes. |
Ayurvedic medicine also credits a lot of curative/health-improving properties to the right mixture of pure cinnamon and honey. Also, I know people claiming to be lactose intolerant who have no problem drinking raw, antibiotic-free milk. Mr. Cohen's beef (no pun intended) is with much more with chemicals and additives (to milk and to animals) and much less, almost nonexistent, with milk itself. |
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