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[Nemesis]

[Ya-ta Boy]

Glad I could bring a little amusement to your lives, guys.

[mindmetoo]

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[mindmetoo]

Alright for another project, I ended up watching this 139 minute abortion called Endgame. Here is my take:

Jones makes a lot of claims but backs very few with sources. For example, Planned Parenthood is a eugenics group and lobbied China to implement a one child policy. Really? Also how is a one child policy an example of eugenics? You're just having one child. Says nothing about genetic fitness.

Jones simply lies and distorts the truth:

- He calls the Kansas city inland port sovereign territory of Mexico. No. The port has Mexican customs officials who work there to pre-clear Mexican bound cargo. Anyone who has ever flown from Toronto or Vancouver airport understands the utility of pre-clearance. US customs operates with US customs officials right in Canadian airports. This is not scary. It's useful.

- As noted previously, his voice over makes it appear like he's citing the Logan act when the Logan act in fact says something entirely different.

- He claims the patriot act defines misdemeanors as domestic terrorism when the definition clearly references specific acts like kidnapping. Last time I checked, kidnapping or using weapons of mass destruction were not misdemeanors.

- Edward VIII stepped down because of his support for Hitler? No. He wanted to marry a divorced American woman. The head of the Church of England can't much be violating a major tenant.

- Vaccines are being used for biological warfare? Oh please where's he getting this from? Vaccines are one of the safest most beneficial public health measures ever instituted. There have been loads of current research on the safety of vaccines (for example claims they're causing autism or they were responsible for AIDS) but the best evidence is all negative.

- Jones claims the regular army was searching Americans at the super bowl, however, his graphic clearly indicates it was the Michigan National Guard. That's not the regular army. Governors certainly call out the National Guard to provide security and police like duties in times of disaster.

- Jones claims foreigners are being recruited for the military. Well, technically they're permanent residents (green card holders). You don't get a green card easily. And many are actually serving because it's a speedier path to becoming full citizens. And many have died in Iraq. Great, Jones, slag their sacrifice.

- Jones claims the forerunner to the UN the League of Nations was a British creation. Now, it sure seems to me the League of Nations idea was one of Woodrow Wilson's 14 points, not a British idea. In fact, it's a little hard to believe the Brits would want to dilute their considerable control of the world with an organization that might give others a say in how things are being run.

- Jones also repeats an often told legend that the American interstate highway system was, to use Jones's words again, "designed by Pentagon war planners." Now Eisenhower supported the creation of the highway system partly out of his frustration as a soldier at the beginning of his career, trying to get any across American in an army truck. But the whole system was a massive partnership between the federal government and the state governments. It was hardly the product of the pentagon.

- He incorrectly attributes "survival of the fittest" to Darwin. The phrase was actually coined by British economist Herbert Spencer. Darwin used the term "natural selection".

- He confuses evolution and eugenics. Eugenics and evolution certainly do not go hand in hand. For example, the scopes monkey trial famously had evolution removed from textbooks because they rather offended Tennessee Christian sensibilities, however, the state's Textbook Commission rather happily approved biology textbooks with eugenics material for years after the trial. Why didn't Christians protest the eugenics material?

- We're also told Bertrand Russell was a eugenicist. Odd. Here let me quote Russell:

It is sometimes maintained that racial mixture is biologically undesirable. There is no evidence whatever for this view. Nor is there, apparently, any reason to think that Negroes are congenitally less intelligent than white people�

Suck it Jones.

- Jones lays on us the amazing stat that 27% of the us population is on antidepressants. That more than 1 out of 4. According to the LA times, 9.5% of the population suffers from a depressive disorder and only half of them seek medical treatment. So where's Jones getting this 27% figure?

- According to Jones the United Nations Environment Programme's global biodiversity assessment report has called for the reduction of the human populations to 1 billion people. Now a google search of the UNEP's site turns up no document that makes this claim. Ummm could we get another source there Jonesy?

- Jones warns us genetically modified foods are part of the plot. Now here's the boner. The EU, the sources of all of Jones' evil, is totally against GMO crops. How does Jones square this? Of course he doesn't.

There's also a hillarious bit where he's trying to convince Canadians the NU will lead to their doom. But later he bemoans the NU will lead to more foreign imports. Hey, those will be Canadian goods. Was Jones warning the Canadians too that NU would result in increased exports to the USA?

In sum, Jones lies, distorts, throws a lot of mud around, backs up almost nothing, the things you can check out are dead wrong or full of distortions, and not a single interview with a person who might offer a dissenting view.

I'm sorry but anyone with a rational mind with an inkling of what constitutes good scholarship would find nothing compelling. You pretty much have to already have drunk the koolaid to find even 3 minutes of this abortion compelling.

[Ya-ta Boy]

I am shocked, truly shocked that a right-wing conspiracist would stoop to distorting information in his effort to scare people. Which brings me to my question: Are there any such things as middle-of-the-road conspiracies or even left-wing conspiracies?

Are modern conspiracy theories ALL right-wing nut jobs?

Enquiring minds want to know.

[Tud Ferguson]

No conspiracy? What was 9-11? Is there anyone who doubts that members of the government had their hands in it?

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[aaabank]

There are no such things as conspiracies fnord. The Bilderberg Group is simply fnord a group of Europeans and North Americans gathering together for fnord better mutual understanding.