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markhan
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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I've heard Koreans compare themselves to Jews and it is supposed to be flattering to Koreans (but is arguably very unflattering to Jews ).
I can't remember exactly, but I think strong identity, oppression and the nation-state winning in the modern time were reasons for the comparison. Oh, and smart, of course. So, who are the Korean equivalents of Einstein and Marx exactly?
Koreans often seek comparisons with European people. I've heard the Japanese referred to as like the English (colonizers) and China (and Chinese) like the Roman Empire and Latin respectively.
I do not believe for one second there is a significant anti-semitic feeling in Korea. |
Is that so?
Funny, because Korean (including Asian-American) being compared to Jewish was in fact the product of American media. As in Korean-American (Asian-American) are "new Jewish" for their academic ability, and yada, yada and yada. Just watch "60 minutes" show back in 90's and Doonesbury cartoons and you will know what I mean.
Koreans themselves also compared them to Italian for their "hot, impatient temper"
And to Netherland for their geographic location where it is stuck between powerful countries (Netherland in this case, France, Germany and UK).
And Irish for love of alcohols.
etc...
Its doubly funny how Koreans suddenly became "Anti-semitic" after few drawing of cartoons. |
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TexasPete
Joined: 24 May 2006 Location: Koreatown
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't think it's antisemitism so much as telling of their profound ignorance of anything not-Korean. |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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What exactly is SEMIT-ism?
Anyone care to take a stab at this? |
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whatever

Joined: 11 Jun 2006 Location: Korea: More fun than jail.
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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| ^^ You know what we're talking about. Don't split hairs, you windbag. |
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endo

Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Location: Seoul...my home
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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One thing I've learned about Korean nationalists is that many are anti-Jew/Israel (anti-Semitic is a stupid world because arabs are semetic peeople as well)
Do y'all remember that one Korean troll a while back who kept posting David Duke quotes to support his views against the jews? |
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crusher_of_heads
Joined: 23 Feb 2007 Location: kimbop and kimchi for kimberly!!!!
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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| igotthisguitar wrote: |
What exactly is SEMIT-ism?
Anyone care to take a stab at this? |
Are you stupid or something? |
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djsmnc

Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:54 am Post subject: |
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| I know this one Jewish girl. She gets good grades and comes from a family that's pretty well off. |
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Justin Hale

Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Location: the Straight Talk Express
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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| markhan wrote: |
| Justin Hale wrote: |
I've heard Koreans compare themselves to Jews and it is supposed to be flattering to Koreans (but is arguably very unflattering to Jews ).
I can't remember exactly, but I think strong identity, oppression and the nation-state winning in the modern time were reasons for the comparison. Oh, and smart, of course. So, who are the Korean equivalents of Einstein and Marx exactly?
Koreans often seek comparisons with European people. I've heard the Japanese referred to as like the English (colonizers) and China (and Chinese) like the Roman Empire and Latin respectively.
I do not believe for one second there is a significant anti-semitic feeling in Korea. |
Is that so?
Funny, because Korean (including Asian-American) |
Surely you mean "Asian-Americans (including Korean-Americans)"?
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| being compared to Jewish was in fact the product of American media. As in Korean-American (Asian-American) are "new Jewish" for their academic ability, and yada, yada and yada. |
What was the "yada yada yada"? Academic ability alone is a feeble comparison to Jews.
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| Just watch "60 minutes" show back in 90's and Doonesbury cartoons and you will know what I mean. |
No matter where the claims come from, Koreans, I have witnessed at least, compare themselves to Jews - both grossly exaggerating their oppression by the Japanese and achievements as a people.
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| Koreans themselves also compared them to Italian for their "hot, impatient temper" |
That's where the similarity ends, I'm afraid. Italy is world-renowned for its beautiful cuisine, architecture and culture. Korea on the other hand.....
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| And to Netherland for their geographic location where it is stuck between powerful countries (Netherland in this case, France, Germany and UK). |
Again, no other similarities whatsoever and the fact that Koreans take a tiny aspect of a European country and apply it to themselves would be something I'd be really opposed to if I were Korean.
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And Irish for love of alcohols.
etc... |
There are some similarities between Ireland and Korea, but a major difference is that the Irish are admired all over the world for their jovial culture. |
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The_Conservative
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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| I find it remarkable that people will spend time and energy critizing cartoons for being anti-semitic when in the same community there are at least two regular posters who have expressed pretty much the same views repeatedly. (I see that one of them just couldn't restrain himself) |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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| igotthisguitar wrote: |
What exactly is SEMIT-ism?
Anyone care to take a stab at this? |
Are you stupid or something? |
SEMIT-ism.
Hmmmm ... is it like some kind of political ideology or special world view?
What exactly is a semite? Definitions please.
Would simply like to be CLEAR on things as i'm not as much of an "expert" on these matters as some other posters here ... appear to be  |
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TexasPete
Joined: 24 May 2006 Location: Koreatown
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:46 am Post subject: |
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| Well I just sent of those awful cartoons to the Israeli embassy here. |
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Billy Pilgrim

Joined: 08 Sep 2004
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:04 am Post subject: |
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While the comics themselves are pretty depressing, how can you take a blog seriously that says this:
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The experience the South Koreans have of the Jews is completely non-existent, so why this growing hatred?
We can think of two reasons:
1) The lunatic left
2) Extremist Islam
This is precisely what happens when the money of the extremists, their lunacy and the lies of left-wingers are allowed to spread unchallenged. |
The lunatic left wing of Korea is responsible for this? Rrrrrright. |
I noticed that too. It's kind of depressing that idiotic cartoons are being criticized by people just as idiotic.
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| This is precisely what happens when the money of the extremists, their lunacy and the lies of left-wingers are allowed to spread unchallenged. |
Who the hell is this pillock? |
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Saxiif

Joined: 15 May 2003 Location: Seongnam
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:42 am Post subject: |
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| igotthisguitar wrote: |
| crusher_of_heads wrote: |
| igotthisguitar wrote: |
What exactly is SEMIT-ism?
Anyone care to take a stab at this? |
Are you stupid or something? |
SEMIT-ism.
Hmmmm ... is it like some kind of political ideology or special world view?
What exactly is a semite? Definitions please.
Would simply like to be CLEAR on things as i'm not as much of an "expert" on these matters as some other posters here ... appear to be  |
The internet is HARD
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic |
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anyangoldboy
Joined: 28 Sep 2007
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:00 am Post subject: |
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What really pisses me off is when you say you support the Palistians and people call you anti-semitic(spl) or that you hate Jews.
Or that you make a reference to Jews being greedy and the same thing happens.
Both the Jews and Palistians are shooting themselves in the foot.
I wish they would all just die really. Screw them all. Apart from the people who just get on with their lives and don't care about religious differnece. |
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anyangoldboy
Joined: 28 Sep 2007
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