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twg

Joined: 02 Nov 2006 Location: Getting some fresh air...
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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| tomwaits wrote: |
| The "accepted wisdom" seems to be you will not get a job unless you show up and wait it out. |
Any callbacks I ever got from a Japanese schools had them wanting me to do a personal interview and a teaching demo in Japan. I just wasn't willing to spend a large amount of money just for the honor.
I suppose that if you were unemployed and had the cash to spare, it'd be an alright task to take on. |
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Rockmonanoff

Joined: 27 Dec 2007
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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Japan rules and Korea drools!  |
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yingwenlaoshi

Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Location: ... location, location!
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Does anyone know of any good recruiters for teaching jobs in Japan?
I dunno. Japan's starting to sound better and better to me. It'd be nice to find a decent enough job with privates in a quiet village to decent-size city. Not Tokyo or the like.
Someone mentioned Kobe. Has anyone lived there or know much about it? |
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Are they the lemmings

Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Location: Not here anymore. JongnoGuru was the only thing that kept me here.
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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| yingwenlaoshi wrote: |
| Someone mentioned Kobe. Has anyone lived there or know much about it? |
I live there right now. I'm not sure what you want to know, tho'... Here's Kobe's entry in Wikipedia. Otherwise, I dunno... ummm... what do you want to know? If you can be more specific, I'd be glad to share any knowledge I have.
I can tell you it's a gaijin (waegukin)-friendly place and (in my experience, at least) there's much less "Oh, wow, look, it's a gaijin" "Hello! Hello! Hello!" going on than other places. Oh, and I find it much cleaner than Osaka: less garbage on the streets, people actually clean up after their dogs, and the homeless population is exponentially smaller than Osaka. I also know of a small apartment opening up in the spring, but let's not get ahead of ourselves here
As for recruiters, I'm not in ESL so I have no first-hand knowlege, but my impression is that recruiters are not widely used here. I've always assumed that people just applied to the big eikaiwa chains and took a job with one of those until they get themselves settled, and then sussed out their options from there. Still, you'll get a much more helpful answer to your question on the forums mentioned earlier in this thread. |
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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Kobe is a nice city. IT's got pretty much anything you need and is not too far from Osaka. I loved the Kansai region myself and you would have access to all of it from there. It's got an indoor snowboarding park too
It's fairly friendly, and there is an island where a lot of the rich foreigners in Japan live on, which means a lot of access to foreign food and stuff. |
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Tiger Beer

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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:55 am Post subject: |
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| Are they the lemmings wrote: |
| I can tell you it's a gaijin (waegukin)-friendly place and (in my experience, at least) there's much less "Oh, wow, look, it's a gaijin" "Hello! Hello! Hello!" going on than other places. |
That might not be true anymore. I'm a few hours north of Tokyo, and I never get any of the 'hey its a gaijin' stuff happening. But one of my co-workers spoke about her experience ten years ago in Matsuyama, and that was par for the course at that time. She's been back to Matauyama since, and its completely differnet there now as well.
Same with Korea for me. When I was living in Busan in the last 90s, I always got the waygook stuff all the time. Living in Seoul from 2000-onward, I never did anymore. |
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kabrams

Joined: 15 Mar 2008 Location: your Dad's house
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:04 am Post subject: |
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| tomwaits wrote: |
I glance in on the Japan side a lot.
The "accepted wisdom" seems to be you will not get a job unless you show up and wait it out. It's only places like Nova that hire from abroad and even they tend to go for first-timers.
I'm not trying to be a downer here or anything. I think maybe a sincere cover letter at least is needed for every job you try. Not like Korea where you hit SEND RESUME and the offers start coming in. |
Most of the people in Japan I know got jobs while out of the country, although there are a lot that want you to be in-country. You just have to know where to look: there are plenty of programs out there that recruit overseas, and one in particular that recruits overseas (JET). There are more state-run programs to teach English as well (for Americans) I also believe that Japan is more open to non-whites than Korea.
You also have to know how to sell yourself to Japanese culture. A lot of American people don't know how to make a resume for Japanese people (like, don't talk all about you, you, you or make everything sound so spectacular).
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