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Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:11 am Post subject: |
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| Octavius Hite wrote: |
Me and 3 girls got food poisoning one saturday night in a country town a few years back.
One of the girls was so sick that we had to go to the emergancey room.
There was no heat and all the windows were open as well as the door. There was no toliet paper or towels in the toliet. There was dirt everywhere, almost as dirty as the public schools.
Because it was sunday they had only one doctor in the whole hospital ( the hospital was 5 floors, not a small one) and while we were in the emergancy room a woman came in who was in labor. Her whole family was there and she was screaming and screaming and screaming.
But, because there was no doctor the nurses were freaking out and kept screaming at her (in Korean) to just close her legs.
CLOSE HER LEGS!!!! While they wait for the ambulance and the 40 minute drive to the nearest woman's hospital.
We couldn't believe it.
Savages i tell you! |
Bloody hell! Close your legs? That's the prevention, not the cure!!! |
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Ilsanman

Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Bucheon, Korea
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, but it also keeps costs more reasonable.
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Like most principals use pre-historic management methods in public elem. schools, it is much the same with public hospitals. I think the 'job for life' post and you are allowed to treat every one else as idiots.
Luckily we found a great private womens hospital on our door step here in Suwon. It's the type that outs the patient first, not the job title.
My wife wanted a natural birth, and they let her try for 12 hours, with the last 2 being with a painkiller drip in her spine. The babies head couldn't get into the birth canal, so she eventually had the section. 40 minutes and little "Grace" was with us.
On a side note, my wife was in a public hospital for appendix removal.
This was 3 weeks after the section and she was very painful stiff afterwards.
Hospital staff don't help patients get in and out of bed, nor will they raise/lower the bed. Family have to be on hand in the morning and evening. If family can't attend, then you have to hire a professional helper to help the patient, costs about 70k for 24 hours or 40k for 12. Nurses only administer medical attention. It was a real eye-opener for me.
I think the stuff in bold pushes them down the rankings a bit. |
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greedy_bones

Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Location: not quite sure anymore
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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| The fact that you see people in hospital gowns still attached to IVs wandering the aisles of Homeplus because they won't put cafeterias in hospitals may also be part of the problem. |
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saw6436
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Daejeon, ROK
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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Lots of knowledge about Korean hospitals and medical practices. How many of you actually work at a Korean hospital? Attended medical school in Korea (or any other country for that matter)? Just what qualifications do you have to judge health care in Korea?
Have I always been satisfied with health care here? No. But some of the comments just go a little too far.
You love the cheep service but complain about the lack of personal attention. If you want a nurse to help you out of bed or to wipe your arse your gonna have to pay for it. My health insurace here costs 4,000 won per month. I've never paid more than 1,500 won for any hospital service. So, I'm very happy to use a Korean hospital. |
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Ilsanman

Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Bucheon, Korea
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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I pay about 40,000 a month (not sure) and pay at least 3,000 to see a doctor. What kind of plan are you on?
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Lots of knowledge about Korean hospitals and medical practices. How many of you actually work at a Korean hospital? Attended medical school in Korea (or any other country for that matter)? Just what qualifications do you have to judge health care in Korea?
Have I always been satisfied with health care here? No. But some of the comments just go a little too far.
You love the cheep service but complain about the lack of personal attention. If you want a nurse to help you out of bed or to wipe your arse your gonna have to pay for it. My health insurace here costs 4,000 won per month. I've never paid more than 1,500 won for any hospital service. So, I'm very happy to use a Korean hospital. |
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saw6436
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Daejeon, ROK
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm covered under the Korean Nurses Association. |
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Ilsanman

Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Bucheon, Korea
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Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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Very nice. But you should expect others don't get such a sweet deal.
In my case, I'd be willing to pay more to get better care. But it's not much of an option for many of us.
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| I'm covered under the Korean Nurses Association. |
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saw6436
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Daejeon, ROK
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 1:45 am Post subject: |
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| I don't care if other get a good deal or not. Fact is you get what you pay for. Hospital staff, including Doctors, get paid a pittance compared with what they make back "home". |
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Mix1
Joined: 08 May 2007
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 3:15 am Post subject: |
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| Ilsanman wrote: |
I agree with Big Bird about pregnancy related things. The C section thing is ridiculous, as they expect it will occur at least half the time. Women who can't take the pain ask for a C section, even if there are no complications.
THere is a high level of quackery here, that's for sure. Any surprise in a country with massive test cheating and bribery problems? |
Nope, no surprise.
But despite that, the costs are reasonable for minor medical problems and wait times are fairly low. I'm much happier here with care vs. cost than in USA where you pay an arm and a leg for insurance that barely covers anything.
That said, for any serious condition, I'd probably go back home.
Especially after the pregnancy stories...ouch. By the way, maybe there are so many C-sections done because there are so many whiny princesses here. "oh, a pa yo!" "Ok, C-section!!! umm.. it's childbirth...it's supposed to hurt a little. |
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greedy_bones

Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Location: not quite sure anymore
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:44 pm Post subject: First hand experience yesterday |
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So, I had my first ER visit yesterday, and was a little disappointed. I'm a type 1 (juvenile/insulin dependant) diabetic and had an insulin reaction at work. I woke up in the ER after they gave me some glucose injections. The emergency care was pretty good and fast, but the medical advice was terrible. Having lived with the disease since I was two years old, I know how to manage it pretty well, but on occasion my exercise, diet, and insulin levels don't match and I'll have a problem. The doctor told me not to take any insulin for the next week and to eat four meals a day. If I did that, I would probably die, lose an extremity, or go blind. What he should have told me, which is what I'm doing, is to monitor my bloodsugar more, and make sure I have a big enough breakfast, not to pretend I don't have diabetes.
This visit cost me about 1/4 the cost of a visit in the U.S., but I think the problem is just with the quality of medical schools here and the prevalence of superstition. They should really get more up to date text books, and perhaps hire more professors from the west to bring them up to speed on modern medicine. |
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socigrrl22
Joined: 18 Apr 2008 Location: Geoje-Do
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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:50 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, I'd have to agree with all of you. I woke up with Bell's Palsy one day, which freaked me out immensely ( I blame the nasty cold virus I had). I went to the hospital, and the doctor didn't even check my facial responses. He simply read the translation that I made, then told me that there was too much " cold wind" in my face. Ha!
Anyway, I read up some do-it-yourself stuff online, and I'm almost better now.
I remember going to the OB/Gyn last year, and I had to put on a communal skirt to be examined. I guess the doctors enjoy looking up skirts... Before that I was in a hospital where I had to carry my uncovered urine test down to another floor to be submitted. Gee....no chance that sample could have been contaminated!
Canada has one doctor in Seoul that is trusted enough to do physical exams for potential immigrants to Canada. I wonder why there's only one? |
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socigrrl22
Joined: 18 Apr 2008 Location: Geoje-Do
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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:56 am Post subject: |
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Hey Greedy Bones,
I have some questions about diabetes. I have been experiencing some potential symptoms (tingly extremities, Bell's Palsy, dizziness, increased urination, fatigue, etc.) , but am hesitant to go to the doctor here anymore. Do you know of any good places to get a reliable blood test? I'm afraid that a doctor will tell me I don't have it if I do, and will tell me I have it if I don't. I go home in three months. Do you think I should get checked? What are the chances I'd have long-term damage if I did nothing for three months?
Thanks! |
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Temporary
Joined: 13 Jan 2008
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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:33 am Post subject: |
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I had a broken nose, and a massive Septum hematoma. I went to a doctor ENT doctor. This fucking quack gave me painkillers .He didn't straighten my nose he didn't drain the hematoma which can lead to permenant damage of the cartlidge in the nose.. I had to go to three doctors before I got frustrated and went to busan to an x GI hospital. He finnaly did an xray, drained the hematoma. I was better after 3 days. My co-worker had her nose broken in a volleyball accident, it took her 3 weeks before it was semi-better.. 1 whole month for recovery.. She said the doctor was highly recommanded. She had the same problem as me with a hematoma which is a common occurance when a nose is broken. This idiot didn't fucking clue for 2 weeks. I told her about then she apperantly told him about it, then they drained her nose.
I told her to change her doctor cause this guy was a moron.
I always prefer shots over the standard pills its quick, its cheap and I am not pumping myself full of other shit.
I love it when some of these lunatics insist its less pain crap.. I'm a fucking Kickboxer pain is not something I can get around.. Everytime I get sick or need allergy medicine I tell them to inject me.. They tell me pills are better. I tell them I want a injection, end of story. I'm not buying into three days of medicine bullshit.. Especialy when they are feeding me other stuff I don't need.. Common I don't need digestive, or pain killers for a simple strep throat. |
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greedy_bones

Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Location: not quite sure anymore
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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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| socigrrl22 wrote: |
Hey Greedy Bones,
I have some questions about diabetes. I have been experiencing some potential symptoms (tingly extremities, Bell's Palsy, dizziness, increased urination, fatigue, etc.) , but am hesitant to go to the doctor here anymore. Do you know of any good places to get a reliable blood test? I'm afraid that a doctor will tell me I don't have it if I do, and will tell me I have it if I don't. I go home in three months. Do you think I should get checked? What are the chances I'd have long-term damage if I did nothing for three months?
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Usually, the hospitals are pretty good. I'd see an endocrinologist (Naebunbimyeong). If the test is negative and you still think you're diabetic, go to any large pharmacy, and buy a blood testing kit. Test your bloodsugar, and if it's above 140, you probably are diabetic.
If you have type 1 diabetes and do nothing for 3 months, you'll feel terrible and die within those 3 months. If you're type 2, I'm not too sure. You probably won't get any long term damage, but that depends on your diet and exercise levels. |
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jaykimf
Joined: 24 Apr 2004
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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:12 pm Post subject: Re: Why is South Korea's healthcare ranked 58? |
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| greedy_bones wrote: |
I have the national healthcare here in Korea, and I love it. I pay 50 bucks a month, don't pay for doctor visits, and pay about 3 or 4,000 for meds. Without insurance, I'd be paying something like 10,000 a visit and 20,000 for meds. I have no wait times, get great care, and have almost no problems. The only issue I have is that you can't get prescriptions for chronic conditions refilled without seeing a doctor which is a little annoying.
Korea is ranked as number 58, though. From personal experience, I haven't seen any real problems with healthcare, but there are probably reasons it's ranked so low. I haven't seen any articles addressing this though.
Any thoughts on why this is? |
Who ranked it 58? What criteria did they use in their rankings? I would think that whoever ranked it would have given some indication of what they were looking at. |
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