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Rockwell Bergstrom
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I have no doubt that a good number of students who want to study abroad would apply to both of these schools.
I'm just wondering if you've found many Koreans who have heard of the schools.
I hope you don't think I'm implying that they're not good schools. I'm from the New England and am aware that both schools are highly respected institutions. |
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Jack_Sarang
Joined: 13 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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I'm curious whether those of you who attended Wesleyan or Bates have met many Koreans who are familiar with either school.
It seems that most Koreans I've met generally only know about the Ivy League schools or the big universities. |
My Korean ex-girlfriend (met her in Korea) attended Wesleyan on a full scholarship. I visited her there once. Nice campus, crap-hole ghetto of a town. Also way too many retarded rich kids playing as dirty hippies.
She got a good education there though, is doing her PhD at another school in the States now. |
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Wangta01
Joined: 03 Oct 2006
Location: Seoul, S. Korea
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| Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:37 am Post subject: |
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| Rockwell Bergstrom wrote: |
I'm curious whether those of you who attended Wesleyan or Bates have met many Koreans who are familiar with either school.
It seems that most Koreans I've met generally only know about the Ivy League schools or the big universities. |
Honestly, no - not many of the Koreans that I met (in Korea and in the States) had heard of Bates. I don't want to speak on behalf of Wesleyan, but my general sense is that you are correct - Koreans (and many people outside of the US) are more aware of the big name ivy league schools. Even Williams and Amherst, arguably two of the best liberal arts schools in the country, are unknown to many Koreans which is unfortunate. I think many Koreans target only the ivy league schools, not knowing the prestige or strong rep associated with some of the smaller, "little ivy" liberal arts schools. |
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faster
Joined: 03 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Wangta01 wrote: |
| Rockwell Bergstrom wrote: |
I'm curious whether those of you who attended Wesleyan or Bates have met many Koreans who are familiar with either school.
It seems that most Koreans I've met generally only know about the Ivy League schools or the big universities. |
Honestly, no - not many of the Koreans that I met (in Korea and in the States) had heard of Bates. I don't want to speak on behalf of Wesleyan, but my general sense is that you are correct - Koreans (and many people outside of the US) are more aware of the big name ivy league schools. Even Williams and Amherst, arguably two of the best liberal arts schools in the country, are unknown to many Koreans which is unfortunate. I think many Koreans target only the ivy league schools, not knowing the prestige or strong rep associated with some of the smaller, "little ivy" liberal arts schools. |
Most Americans in the west (where I'm from) don't know those schools either (I went to one of them), but the people who matter know. Every job I've applied to knew, both in the U.S. and here. Williams, Amherst, and Swarthmore are extremely popular among top Korean FLHS students right now, as well, and there has been a flurry of Korean-language articles about liberal arts schools (as well as the Wall St. Journal article that included Minsago & Daewon and included Williams among its top eight elite US colleges). Bates, Colby, Wesleyan may not have the huge cachet of the Ivies, but they don't in the US either. |
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Wangta01
Joined: 03 Oct 2006
Location: Seoul, S. Korea
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| Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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Most Americans in the west (where I'm from) don't know those schools either (I went to one of them), but the people who matter know. Every job I've applied to knew, both in the U.S. and here. Williams, Amherst, and Swarthmore are extremely popular among top Korean FLHS students right now, as well, and there has been a flurry of Korean-language articles about liberal arts schools (as well as the Wall St. Journal article that included Minsago & Daewon and included Williams among its top eight elite US colleges). Bates, Colby, Wesleyan may not have the huge cachet of the Ivies, but they don't in the US either. |
I agree, the farther out west you go, the less people are aware of my school. But to your point, when I applied for jobs in New York, I had no problems as most people who needed to know, were aware of the school and reputation. Perhaps its good that I only looked at job opportunities on the east coast!
Good to hear that Koreans are targeting those schools. A friend's sister was applying to schools last fall and like the typical Korean, was only looking at the ivy league schools. I really pushed her to look at Williams and Amherst, not sure if she ever did. We need more Korean representation in the small liberal arts schools! |
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faster
Joined: 03 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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Most Americans in the west (where I'm from) don't know those schools either (I went to one of them), but the people who matter know. Every job I've applied to knew, both in the U.S. and here. Williams, Amherst, and Swarthmore are extremely popular among top Korean FLHS students right now, as well, and there has been a flurry of Korean-language articles about liberal arts schools (as well as the Wall St. Journal article that included Minsago & Daewon and included Williams among its top eight elite US colleges). Bates, Colby, Wesleyan may not have the huge cachet of the Ivies, but they don't in the US either. |
I agree, the farther out west you go, the less people are aware of my school. But to your point, when I applied for jobs in New York, I had no problems as most people who needed to know, were aware of the school and reputation. Perhaps its good that I only looked at job opportunities on the east coast!
Good to hear that Koreans are targeting those schools. A friend's sister was applying to schools last fall and like the typical Korean, was only looking at the ivy league schools. I really pushed her to look at Williams and Amherst, not sure if she ever did. We need more Korean representation in the small liberal arts schools! |
Williams is tough--usually just one Korean a year, three last year--and is likely to become tougher with its new, more appealing aid program (and admissions that, unlike Amherst's and other similar schools', is need-blind even for international students). |
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Wangta01
Joined: 03 Oct 2006
Location: Seoul, S. Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:37 am Post subject: |
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| Williams is tough--usually just one Korean a year, three last year--and is likely to become tougher with its new, more appealing aid program (and admissions that, unlike Amherst's and other similar schools', is need-blind even for international students). |
Yikes, only 1-3 per year? So max 12 Korean students in the entire school! |
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faster
Joined: 03 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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| faster wrote: |
| Williams is tough--usually just one Korean a year, three last year--and is likely to become tougher with its new, more appealing aid program (and admissions that, unlike Amherst's and other similar schools', is need-blind even for international students). |
Yikes, only 1-3 per year? So max 12 Korean students in the entire school! |
Well, I'm referring solely to students from Korean high schools. There are many, many Korean-American students. Also, keep in mind that the entire student body is around 2000. We're talking about a pretty tiny school. |
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PRagic
Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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| ...and cue the 'Glory Days' soundtrack. You graduated. Move along. Man, you'd think your school had a team or something! |
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Roch
Joined: 24 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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| ...and cue the 'Glory Days' soundtrack. You graduated. Move along. Man, you'd think your school had a team or something! |
Williams has had many fine ice hockey players over the years. The football, soccer, and baseball teams are usually good, too. |
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Wangta01
Joined: 03 Oct 2006
Location: Seoul, S. Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I'm referring solely to students from Korean high schools. There are many, many Korean-American students. Also, keep in mind that the entire student body is around 2000. We're talking about a pretty tiny school. |
True, come to think of it, Bates only had a handful of Korean-Korean students...maybe seemed like more because of the asian americans (not too many of these either). Yeah, all these schools we're talking about are under 2000 students. I think Bates has "grown" to 1800, up from 1600 when I graduated. Some highschools in the states have bigger graduating classes!
Regarding sports - Bates had one of the worst football teams on the planet. I'm not sure if we won 1 game in the entire 4 years I was there. Our basketball and soccer teams are pretty good every year, but never good enough to win the NESCAC conference with teams like Williams, Amherst, Tufts, Middlebury, Wesleyan in the mix. Middlebury recently won the NCAA D3 championship in soccer. |
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faster
Joined: 03 Sep 2006
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| PRagic wrote: |
| ...and cue the 'Glory Days' soundtrack. You graduated. Move along. Man, you'd think your school had a team or something! |
Who peed in your metamucil? |
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Wangta01
Joined: 03 Oct 2006
Location: Seoul, S. Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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| faster wrote: |
| Who peed in your metamucil? |
Thats gross. Like something you'd see on Jack@ss |
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