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| What Korean? |
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3% |
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| Survival Korean |
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37% |
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| Simple conversation, grammar optional |
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15% |
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| Confident response in Korean in most situations ("Fluent") |
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| On the phone Koreans think my name is 'Kim' |
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matthewwoodford
Joined: 01 Oct 2003
Location: Location, location, location.
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| Gwangjuboy wrote: |
My Korean girlfriend teaches me at least once a week. What I find really difficult is a) structure and, b) they use verbs that we don't have.
For example, sit da - wash, gam da - wash hair. You couldn't ask a Korean, oneul molri sit seo soe yo? (have you washed your hair today?) You would have to replace the sit da verb with gam da. e.g. oneul molri gam as eo yo? There are many other examples. (sorry for the bad romanisation.) |
My first Korean girlfriend never even tried to teach me Korean when I asked her and also never listened when I tried to improve her English. My current girlfriend teaches informally and is great.
I know what you mean about these more specific verbs. You have to memorise more verbs. But it's one of those things that enrich any language in my view. Think how confusing it is for Koreans - using one verb where they have two must also seem all wrong...
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endofthewor1d
Joined: 01 Apr 2003
Location: the end of the wor1d.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Ryst Helmut wrote: |
| endofthewor1d wrote: |
| if i can ever land a job in seoul with a block shift, i have every intention of taking a class. |
As a current student (20 hours a week of classroom instruction) in a Korean language facility, I can tell you that IDEALLY you should NOT work. I go to class for 4 hours, then have about 3-4 hours of homework daily. Umm, your brain is pretty much fried, so teaching is somewhat out of the question.
Also, since you've time in Korea, they probably won't put you in a beginners' course. This can be a big problem. For me, I was placed in an advanced class, where I can run circles around my classmates discussing Korean culture, and stuff in general. However, the other half...man am I dragging!
You'll most likely be in a class of (at least) 80% Japanese, so they've already got a 'headstart' on you (you know, like if you and the Japanese were to study Spanish...you'd be on the up).
Another problem with work. Even if you comprehend all that is taught, you've got to be able to digest what you've learned and utilise it, otherwise, you're bound to forget (my mistake) and spend the latter half of the semester catching up. If you don't advance, you're stuck studying the same material, and that gets old RIGHT FAST.
So, for now, study bits and pieces....with PROPER grammar, as it'll bite you in the arse later...when you can attend a course full time and with only LIMITED private tutoring (to pay for expenses), then go for it.
Shoosh,
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thanks for the advice ryst.
ideally, i would devote my full time to studying rather than teaching. but i've heard those classes can be expensive... not to mention i've run myself into a bit of debt since i've been back home again. not working is not an option.
that's a good point about getting put in an advanced class though. i doubt that will be the case though. i mean, i can read and write pretty well. but to hear me speak korean is not something that would come anywhere close to warranting any sort of advanced placement. even if they tell me i should, i might opt to take the beginner course instead.
but whether i'm able to devote my full day to it or not, i know full well that i'll be able to learn much more in a classroom setting than i will studying on my own. that's just the kind of guy i am. |
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little mixed girl
Joined: 11 Jun 2003
Location: shin hyesung's bed~
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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purrrfect
Joined: 03 Oct 2003
Location: In Toronto, dreaming of all things theatrical
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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My Korean isn't great, but I can read it no problem (sound it out, not necessarily understand the meaning). I can put a few sentences together, but I couldn't have any kind of sustained conversation.
But I can tell you this: I didn't know more than a few words when I lived in Seoul, but after I moved to a smaller city, I learned a lot more Korean quite quickly (without formally studying it, although I think studying in a class is the best way to go). I've found that if you live outside of Seoul, there are many more times when you have to express yourself in Korean. |
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the_beaver
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 1:11 am Post subject: |
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| purrrfect wrote: |
| I can tell you this: I didn't know more than a few words when I lived in Seoul, but after I moved to a smaller city, I learned a lot more Korean quite quickly (without formally studying it, although I think studying in a class is the best way to go). I've found that if you live outside of Seoul, there are many more times when you have to express yourself in Korean. |
When I lived outside of Seoul I learned almost no Korean.
Hmmmm. |
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matthewwoodford
Joined: 01 Oct 2003
Location: Location, location, location.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 9:38 am Post subject: Re: How good is your Korean? |
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| wormholes101 wrote: |
| matthewwoodford wrote: |
| I know the fluency options I chose are far from perfect..... |
Option: Simple conversation, grammar optional
Option: Confident response in Korean in most situations ("Fluent")
Far from perfect is a bit of an understatement!! How you can have a simple converstation without any grammar 
Me: (points at self) �������� ���...
Korean: ��!! �������� ��� ���ƿ�!
Me: Eh? ����.
Korean: �������� good!!
Me: ��!!... Good... ���ƿ�!
Korean: �� ���̿���?
Me: Eh?
Korean: ���?! ���?! ���̰�.......
Me: ��! bla bla bla....
Next step: Fluency!! |
Fair comment. Wish I could get hangeul on this PC so I could read your dialogue, but I take your point. Feel free to suggest a couple of stages between simple conversation (with imperfect grammar shall we say) and fluency.
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wormholes101
Joined: 11 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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Dunno mate.. it's your poll. Just put anything in between.
OK... maybe something like "Conversational in many situations but still a long way to go."???
That'd probably describe my ability. I impressed myself by holding a conversation to a newly introduced person for a couple of hours occasionally stopping to verify the meaning of something or other . But, if I'm in a group of Koreans, and they're speaking like they normally would to each other, I understand only about 25%. I understand the topic at hand and get the gist of it.... |
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just because
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964
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| Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2003 3:53 am Post subject: |
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I'm not too bad considering I teach myself with a lot of help from the missus. i can construct simple sentances together and know what conjunctions to use but it is going to be 10 years before I would be fluent.
As everyone says reading and writing is easy however, speaking and especially listening not so easy. i am going to Sogang next year however so that will be a big boost. I'm hoping for Level 3 or 4 out of 9. that would be cool.
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| I understand the topic at hand and get the gist of it.... |
Thats me to a tea. Its only started happening in the last month or so and I'm stoked because it shows I am getting better. |
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sid
Joined: 02 Feb 2003
Location: Berkshire, England
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| Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2003 5:00 am Post subject: |
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| wormholes101 wrote: |
| if I'm in a group of Koreans, and they're speaking like they normally would to each other, I understand only about 25%. I understand the topic at hand and get the gist of it.... |
I seem to have the opposite problem: I will understand most of the individual utterances in a conversation but often won't quite 'grasp' who/what they are talking about. S'pose it depends how close the topic is to the immediate context. |
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